Miyata 1000LT fixer upper, and assorted questions
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I built a set of modern wheels for Miyata 628, the original wheels are so heavy and I went ahead and did a speed conversion since the DT shifters were available. I built an ultegra/open pro wheelset and the bike really seems livelier with the lighter wheels. I also put silver fenders on it.
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Very nice Score OP! I just put a VO Grand Cru headset on my 1987 Nishiki Cresta GT rebuild and have been happy with it and with sealed bearing I won't have to worry about it for a while
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I could see going either way on the fenders. Black plastic if you want an easier install; stainless steel if you want that heavy duty bling. Velo Orange and Tanaka both make stainless fenders in the 45m width (good for covering tires up to 35mm, maybe even 38mm if you like tight fender line). The plastic ones are available in black from many sources and configurations.
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I’m putting black fenders on my 1K as I type this, just took a quick internets break. I’ll post up some pictures in a bit, I need to swap out a fastener, and install the front fender.
Black for me because it has a black crankset, seatpost, and steering stem. If you go black, I’d put in a black post, and silver, I’d swap in a silver stem. I’m not usually that particular but this is the Luxe Tour, so I’m paying attention to asthetics more than usual.
Black for me because it has a black crankset, seatpost, and steering stem. If you go black, I’d put in a black post, and silver, I’d swap in a silver stem. I’m not usually that particular but this is the Luxe Tour, so I’m paying attention to asthetics more than usual.
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I built a set of modern wheels for Miyata 628, the original wheels are so heavy and I went ahead and did a speed conversion since the DT shifters were available. I built an ultegra/open pro wheelset and the bike really seems livelier with the lighter wheels. I also put silver fenders on it.
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This is the Axium DLX Low Rider rack. It wins the award for most terrible designed piece of crap I’ve had the misfortune to come across. I’m hesitant to even donate it to the local coop, it’s really that bad.

Here’s She is with the fenders installed. The fender line is a bit high on purpose. It’s currently running the 28mm tires the PO has installed, but I want to fit... well, as big as I can stuff in there.
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Thanks for the pics. Looks very nice. Let me know what the widest tires you can fit are once you figure it out. I assume our frames are pretty much identical except for the paint. The bike came with 35s but I wonder if it could fit 38s with fenders...

This is the Axium DLX Low Rider rack. It wins the award for most terrible designed piece of crap I’ve had the misfortune to come across. I’m hesitant to even donate it to the local coop, it’s really that bad.

Here’s She is with the fenders installed. The fender line is a bit high on purpose. It’s currently running the 28mm tires the PO has installed, but I want to fit... well, as big as I can stuff in there.

This is the Axium DLX Low Rider rack. It wins the award for most terrible designed piece of crap I’ve had the misfortune to come across. I’m hesitant to even donate it to the local coop, it’s really that bad.

Here’s She is with the fenders installed. The fender line is a bit high on purpose. It’s currently running the 28mm tires the PO has installed, but I want to fit... well, as big as I can stuff in there.
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This is the Axium DLX Low Rider rack. It wins the award for most terrible designed piece of crap I’ve had the misfortune to come across. I’m hesitant to even donate it to the local coop, it’s really that bad.

Here’s She is with the fenders installed. The fender line is a bit high on purpose. It’s currently running the 28mm tires the PO has installed, but I want to fit... well, as big as I can stuff in there.
Lots of straddle cable on your bike. I remade the straddle cables on mine and made them about the same length as the originals--they're about half as long, but the brakes work well. I'm not real sure on the science of optimizing those lengths. Mine has the original levers -- non-aero. Maybe they don't pull as much cable.
Pretty bike. Very pretty.
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Looks like a bit less brake straddle in the catalog, but those Aeros are original to the ‘91. I think everything is apart from what I’ve swapped out myself.
https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...logue%2090.pdf
this should link you to the 1990 catalog.
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I take it back. After reevaluating the OEM equipment with black anodizing, I believe black fenders would be the correct accent color. Good call.
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Well, that pretty much settles it. I'm thinking either the black Portland Design Works metal fenders or something from Velo Orange, like the hammered fenders. Hmm. So many decisions!
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2019 Electric Queen (first "real" MTB)
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1977 Austro-Daimler Inter-10 (an experiment in valley-floor road riding)
1979 Trek 710 (first frame-up build)
1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport (daily driver)
1984 Peugeot Urban Express (funky rando-esque 26" gravel grinder)
2014 Salsa Mukluk (daily winter driver)
2015 Elephant NFE (Gugiefied gravel grinder)
2019 Electric Queen (first "real" MTB)
2024 Salsa Blackthorn (summer slayer of trails)
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Looks like you're making use of the threaded hole in the fork. Mine is threaded too. I guess a standard 6mm bolt does the trick. Black fenders look fine too me. My 1988 color is almost black with green glitter floating around in it. Probably silver will be my choice. Are those metal fenders?
Lots of straddle cable on your bike. I remade the straddle cables on mine and made them about the same length as the originals--they're about half as long, but the brakes work well. I'm not real sure on the science of optimizing those lengths. Mine has the original levers -- non-aero. Maybe they don't pull as much cable.
Pretty bike. Very pretty.
Lots of straddle cable on your bike. I remade the straddle cables on mine and made them about the same length as the originals--they're about half as long, but the brakes work well. I'm not real sure on the science of optimizing those lengths. Mine has the original levers -- non-aero. Maybe they don't pull as much cable.
Pretty bike. Very pretty.
The fenders are actually Planet Bike Cascadia, and they’re aluminum. They have a crease that matches the rims!
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I've got an older version of those racks and they work just fine on my 1000 but they are labelled backwards, the R is meant to be on the right if you're standing looking at the bike...they worked better when I used them that way, I could use the top eyelet for the rack and the other one for the fender.
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Here's where I am. Work done so far: new BB, new bar tape, new VO Grand Cru headset, new seat post, trued wheels and repacked bearings, new SPD pedals, Brooks B17N saddle. I just put the fenders (PDW Full Metal) on yesterday, and I'm not yet in love with how they look. Having second thoughts--maybe silver would've been better after all. I'll give it a couple days and see how I feel.
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This is a cutaway pic of older Esge mudguards. IMO the perfect period correct model for your bike. Difficult to find but they do pop up. I think the same design came branded as SKS.
From Sheldons page.
From Sheldons page.
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Those look great. Are they metal or plastic? Anything contemporary that looks like that?
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They're the good plastic, pliable, not brittle. My front wheel caught a branch and the bottom 3rd of the fender got sucked up and folded up and under the down tube before locking the wheel and throwing me. I actually unfolded it and continued to use it with a little TLC. Still have it somewhere.
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Hm, I'd really prefer metal. Thinking about the VO silver faceted fenders... or maybe I'll just get used to these black ones.
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Oh yes, I realize how nice a bike this is. It's my grail bike! Found it for sale on a sidewalk in front of a shop two blocks from my apartment. I couldn't believe it. Paid $215 after talking the guy down from $500. So not all that objectively cheap, but cheap for a Miyata 1000.
I overhauled the hubs already and they're in good shape. I'll post rim damage in the next couple of days, once I have time to work on the bike. I think it is a semi-single wall, like you say. Thanks for the recommendations.
I overhauled the hubs already and they're in good shape. I'll post rim damage in the next couple of days, once I have time to work on the bike. I think it is a semi-single wall, like you say. Thanks for the recommendations.
I have a 1981 Miyata One Thousand and I love the bike. With that being said, the newer models such as yours are much more in demand versus the early 80's models.
I'd hate to imagine what my 1981 model would sell for. I'll hang it on the wall forever before I'd sell it for anything less than 500.00
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I think the black fenders look really nice on that. They play off the black tires, chain rings, stem, saddle, bottle cages and "Miyata" text. There is plenty of light champagne color (the frameset itself) to contrast with the black, and I really like it. A sort of retro "Black & Tan."
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One could get the best of both worlds and get the black VO metal fenders...
For aesthetics, try adjusting the rear fender line by bringing it closer to the seat stay bridge. It looks a bit close to the tire at that spot.
For aesthetics, try adjusting the rear fender line by bringing it closer to the seat stay bridge. It looks a bit close to the tire at that spot.



