Well I've been seeing a lot of fine old Colnago's here so I'll just have to add another one (you don't mind, do you?).

I'm not sure what year this (early 90's?) is but it's been modernized with mostly Veloce 9spd stuff with some Athena and Centaur. Phil Wood front hub and American Classic seat post.

I picked this up last week from Craigslist. It's my first road bike, so I'm having a bit of trouble adjusting to the rider positioning. I think I need slightly taller and slightly shorter stem. It's a Giant RS940. After this pic was taken, I bought some Ultegra/Open Pro wheels from Performance ($168!).

Edit to add: Tht isn't rust on the fork, but a stain left by a cyclecomputer bracket. The frame is some sort of lugged chromoly, triple butted if what I read is correct. Whatever it is, it rides nice. With the new wheels, but low end components, it weighs in at 23lbs, give or take a few ounces (I got a range of 22.5-23.5 with my digital bathroom scale).

Sorry for the poor quality, I used my cameraphone.



Chris

Here are my '83 Trek 500 upgraded to 21 speed with barend shifters and my '79 Trek 710 as a single speed but has since been changed to 21 speed with barend shifters.

Here's my lugless fillet brazed Jim Redcay, built for me in 1977 and modified to suit my changing tastes over the years. Originally set up with Huret Jubilee deraillers, converted to fixed gear in the early 90's, then to a 1951 Sturmey Archer AM hub gear in the late 90's. I love the SA AM! Gear inches are about 60, 69 and 80. Zeus Criterium cranks and Campy brakes are original. Diacompe aero brake levers date from the mid 80's. Most recent upgrades were the Nitto Noodle bar and Technomic Deluxe stem.

Sorry about the fuzziness of this picture. My old Mavica seems to do a better job on the closeups.






Detail of spoking pattern for 32 spokes on 40 hole hub:

Beautiful Bike! I have two Redcays. One is an 84 sports touring, It looks almost new. The other is a mid 70's full on touring bike. I'm in the process of restoring the older bike. (replacing the drive side chainstay which was mangled badly & repairing a poorly welded left seatstay. Here is a link to some pics of the 84.
https://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc...llman0906.html .I love the sturmey archer hub by the way. When the older frame is done I plan on building a similar frame for use with a rholoff 14 speed hub. Anyway thanks for the pic.

Matt

Very cool. I have a Sturmey Archer FM hub on one of my bikes, which I like a great deal, and have an AM that I'm going to build into a rim one of these days. Good to see that spoking pattern, too, though I've managed to find 27" and 700c 40-hole rims. How do you like the setup with the trigger on the downtube like that?

Neal

Thanks, guys. That's a beautiful bike you've got there, too, Matt.

Matt, you might have noticed that my bike has a sleeved repair to the right chainstay at the dropout too. The repair and repaint were done by Peter Weigle in 1986. My biggest regret about that is that I would have preferred the original head tube decal, just the plain red letter K without the rest of it. I would also choose a less flamboyant color nowadays.

I love the clean simplicity of Redcay's frames, and feel that the lugless construction, which I requested, adds to it. I also wanted to keep the handlebars uncluttered by the SA shifter and cable, and am used to and comfortable with downtube shifting with drop bars (this is my only remaining drop bar bike now).

Here is how I modified and attached the shifter. Maybe a little crude, but it works very well.



I might have been able to come up with a 40 hole rim if I tried, but I was intrigued with the idea of building the 32-40 wheel and already had the rim and the spokes for it.


Here's an old (and fuzzy again-sorry) snapshot of the bike as it looked when I first built it up in 1977:


By the way I do have a Rohloff on another bike and love it, but for this bike I feel that the Sturmey Archer AM is ideal.

My earlier Redcay also filet brazed has the simpler red K logo without the stars around it. The dent on the chainstay on mine was near the BB shell so I decided to replace the whole stay & bridge. What are you using the Rholoff on a mountain or road bike? I found the guy who painted for Redcay in the old days. He owns a shop in Lambertville N.J. I'm thinking of having him paint the frame when it's done. I like that yellow paint it looks cool.

Matt

Beautiful bike. I'm curious as to what would be the purpose/aesthetics of a 3-speed SA hub on a frame like that. It's not an idea I'm familiar with.

I love your bike!!! Smooth and clean. Great thinking with the shifter placement, too!! I think I might steal that idea one day.....

Think English club bikes from the 1930s to 50s.

Neal

That's interesting. I assume lugless Redcays must be very rare. I've never seen or heard of another one.

The Rohloff (note correct spelling) is on my PBW folding bike, off-topic for this thread. Perhaps I will eventually post pictures of that bike on the folding bikes forum.

I guess aesthetics is a personal thing. I was highly enamored of the Huret Jubilee deraillers, and still think they are beautiful, but they were not the best choice from the functional point of view. I used the bike pretty hard in the first few years I had it and went through a couple of sets of the Jubilees. Eventually just left the deraillers off and converted to a fixed gear, but was not satisfied with that for longer and hillier rides (the problem with fixed gear is mainly the downhills, not the uphills). I could have just put on a single speed freewheel, but I'd been using a Sturmey Archer AW in combination with deraillers for touring, had the AM and decided it would be a good thing to put it on this bike. I think it still has much of the aesthetics of a fixed or single speed. The AM hub was intended by Sturmey Archer for "club" or "sport" riding, which is the kind of riding I use this bike for. I also feel it is perhaps the most mechanically elegant of SA's hubs, sharing the basic mechanical simplicity of the AW, but with ratios more suitable for high performance riding.

Personally I think it looked better in '77, but then again, so did I

Hrm, I was thinking the same thing. I talked to my LBS about getting a coaster brake hub and building up a 700c wheel around it for cruising in the city but this idea looks great to me. Especially for the winter, a sealed hub with 3 speeds would be just about perfect.

The Redcay looks great, the lugless seat cluster is sweet, I didn't realize that this was being done in 1977. I am suprised it wasn't more popular, it is very nice.

Hmm, 1970s, fillet brazing, lightweight steel--Viscount, anyone?

Neal

... or Schwinn Sports Tourer / Super Sports?

I have the chain and a few other bits... such as the cassette to put on it and it'll be done...still thinking I need to ditch the yellow tires.. but it's all I have at the moment.
It's all Campy 90% C-Record the rest is just campy.. The seat post isn't though.. anyone have a an older Camy seat Pin they would like to part with for a good price.?


can someone upload them for me? if if e-mail them out.. still can't getthe pics to post as they are simply too large



Rory.

My Carlton Super Course.

Front wheel is from my beater, long story.

Nice bike.

btw - there's plenty of room for long stories here.

This is my 1989 Concorde PDM team issue SLX frame. The bike is done up with C-Record ( except the seat pin ) The wheels are MAVIC Open Pro. I have been building it for the last 4 months gathering parts and all. it's alomost done i should have it finished by Spring for some rides..
It's a 57cm frame with 175 cranks. i am still looking for a good seat to place on it.

oops pics would be nice. pics will enlarge if you double click them. .

Here is the Trek 1200 I picked up for $100, all it took was new tires and tubes, I think it is from '89...

Those pics are nice - beautiful Concord & nice component spec too! Even the seat colors & design seem to go with the paint job.

Do you know which model & what year is it? Does it say where the frame was built? I know it is a Dutch brand but aren't some of their higher end frames built in hand built in Italy? I've been thinking for a while that i want a Gazelle AA framed bike or a nice Concorde but haven't researched them yet. Once in a while there are really good deals on them in the classifieds because they aren't the big names most people recognize.

Enjoy your ride when it's done.

jeroen

EDIT: oops, <blush> was drawn to the pics and only just realized you included most of that info in your original (sans pics) post. Just found your original post about the bike too so will read that too.

Hi,
Yeah, Ciocc was the maker of some of the higher end Concordes.. yes, it is a Dutch brand..
They are great bikes.. this is my 3rd Concorde.. I love them, it is sad that people over here in the US do not now the brand more.. as they are great bikes.. i guess that also good as you and i can score the bikes for next to nothing...and then spend a MINT putting Campy kit on them. hahha
Thanks for the kind words on the bike.. I tihnk you should buy one and do it up nice..

-Rory

Wow. Better than I ever have done... I got a 1970 brown Schwinn Continental, with all original parts, for 40 bucks. Fixed it up best I could. Had to replace cable housing, but I went with the nice Teflon lined ones... new cables, and new bearings. Other than that, everything else is the original factory stuff, even the sweet 70's brown tape... I love steel rims...

It is the heaviest bike I have ever ridden, but it's worth it.
Smoother than heck... I will put a pic up later...