screw these mini pumps, I need an inflator
#26
I have this one, and have used it many times. You can use threaded and threadless cartridges (cheaper). I've used the built in pump once and it's crap. 200 pumps to 50psi (only 70psi more to go! yeah I counted). The manual pump doesn't work anymore, and I have no idea why.
#27
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From: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
Incidentally, I'm writing this from home so, obviously, I've always found a way to get back.
#28
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I've had problems with very small debris (slivers of metal think like a pick of a staple) caught in the tire. They are nearly impossible to find unless you know where to look. If you inflate the tube with quite a bit of air, you can find the small hole and match it up with the tire to find the cause. I've seen people use half or all of a cartridge just to find the source. That's why I think a combo mini/CO2 inflator is the way to go.
#29
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I like buying the cheap BB gun CO2 cartridges but I recently heard that there is oil in these that may affect the tube???? I have never had a problem and they are way cheaper than buying bike CO2 cartridges. I have not seen a CO2 inflator that will except both 12 and 16gram cartridges and also except both in a threaded or non treaded style.
#31
Using only CO2, I've never once been stranded in over 40,000 miles and 10 years of cycling (with the exception of one nasty unrepairable sidewall glass cut).
My recipe for success is:
Here's what to look for in your LBS:

My recipe for success is:
- 1 spare tube (carried in a ziplock bag, with talcum powder).
- 3 CO2 cartridges (one stored inside the inflator).
- 1 set of Park glueless patches (for the 2 flats in one ride scenario).
- 1 Genuine Innovations Ultraflate CO2 inflator.
Here's what to look for in your LBS:

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You can mount it elsewhere. Can you find it on this bike?
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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Nope. Doesn't need the stem flipped 'cause I don't race
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
#37
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Bikes: MTB Agressor for now.
I have a mini-pump and it works just fine. It has a foot so you can use it like a regular pump and has an extension so you wont bend your valve. Besides no refills are needed.
#38
Have you used a nice floor pump? IMO, your statement is not true. That being said, it's almost as good.
The Road Morph is my travel pump: it goes in the suitcase w/ my folding bike for when it's time to reassemble. On the road, I take a mini-pump + CO2 combo or simply the cute little chuck inflater. At home, Joe Blow Pro floor pump.
The Road Morph is my travel pump: it goes in the suitcase w/ my folding bike for when it's time to reassemble. On the road, I take a mini-pump + CO2 combo or simply the cute little chuck inflater. At home, Joe Blow Pro floor pump.
#39
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Bikes: Ridley Noah RS, Scott CR1 Pro
I have so few flats (2/yr in 5000mi) that carrying a pump isn't worth the hassle. A spare tube and a couple of cartridges are perfect and fit nicely in my jersey pocket. Why prepare for the worse when it almost never happens, that is what my cell phone is for.
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The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard and the shallow end is much too large
2013 Noah RS
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From: Jacksonville, FL
Bikes: Trek Checkmate, Lynskey Elysium, Trek FX 5 Sport
#41
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From: 5200' Boulder, CO Area
Bikes: Specialized 6Fattie, Parlee Z5, Cannondale SuperX
Road Morph on my winter bike, mini-pump and inflator for summer.
Two flats last weekend on wet roads. First was a failure around the valve. Changed it quick, and about 5 mi later, flat again - phooey. I (and my buddies) figured I'd missed a tire puncture in my haste to change tire. Pulled off tire, ran my fingers around inside, and found a large, needle sharp, tack!. It was obviously a new acquisition. Extracted tack, borrowed a buddy's tube, Morphed it up, and was back on the road.
The Morph isn't attractive, but it really does the job quickly and reliably.
Two flats last weekend on wet roads. First was a failure around the valve. Changed it quick, and about 5 mi later, flat again - phooey. I (and my buddies) figured I'd missed a tire puncture in my haste to change tire. Pulled off tire, ran my fingers around inside, and found a large, needle sharp, tack!. It was obviously a new acquisition. Extracted tack, borrowed a buddy's tube, Morphed it up, and was back on the road.
The Morph isn't attractive, but it really does the job quickly and reliably.
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That's the reason I bought it. I have waaaaay too many black, blue or white bikes. I needed some color in the garage
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
#45
I have saved more than my fair share of people who
a) Did not get their CO2 to fill the tire correctly
b) Did not have an extra CO2 cartridge
c) Did not have a Pump or CO2
d) Did not have an adapter for Schrader.
I Marshall my fair share of Charity rides and by the days end my hands
are sore. Not because of the pump, its the best. Its that too many people count
on the CO2 for more than they think.
Trust me, I have my CO2 in the closet.
Mini-Pumps "may" get you rolling, but never at the proper pressure unless you are an NFL linebacker.
Oh Yeah the Topeak Road Morph comes in 2 models. Don't be cheap, get the one with the pressure gauge, costs $5-$7.50 more.
Good luck
Live an learn then start all over again
Rob
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The topeak road morph is like a floor pump because you do not use arm muscles to work it. Mini pumps use the arm muscles and get you tired fast. Then you hesitate to inflate to the desired pressures.
Topeak road morph is large and may not fit a small frame size that's got a sloping down tube. No matter what you do, any frame pump detracts from the design of the frame. I carry mine in the backpack. Even a camelback can be modified to carry a Topeak road morph.
Topeak road morph is large and may not fit a small frame size that's got a sloping down tube. No matter what you do, any frame pump detracts from the design of the frame. I carry mine in the backpack. Even a camelback can be modified to carry a Topeak road morph.
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[QUOTE=Not the Slowest;5880603I have saved more than my fair share of people who
a) Did not get their CO2 to fill the tire correctly
b) Did not have an extra CO2 cartridge.[/QUOTE]
What's the big deal? I guess that I must not get it. The first time that I used CO2 to inflate a bike tire on the road it worked flawlessly. The same's true for the last time and every time in between. I generally carry a couple of cartridges with me but I've never needed more than 1 on a ride.
If you want to use a Road Morph or Zefal or some such frame pump, that's fine with me. I just don't identify with all of the horror stories about using CO2. I've never personally experienced anything like what I've heard and I've never witnessed anybody else having such problems using CO2. I'm wondering how many of these stories are true.
a) Did not get their CO2 to fill the tire correctly
b) Did not have an extra CO2 cartridge.[/QUOTE]
What's the big deal? I guess that I must not get it. The first time that I used CO2 to inflate a bike tire on the road it worked flawlessly. The same's true for the last time and every time in between. I generally carry a couple of cartridges with me but I've never needed more than 1 on a ride.
If you want to use a Road Morph or Zefal or some such frame pump, that's fine with me. I just don't identify with all of the horror stories about using CO2. I've never personally experienced anything like what I've heard and I've never witnessed anybody else having such problems using CO2. I'm wondering how many of these stories are true.
#49
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Bikes: 2017 Orbea Orca,'06 Orbea Opal, 2019 Trek Checkpoint SL6
I have witnessed on a number of occasions people attempting to use CO2 fillers that hadn't practiced in the privacy of their own garage prior to taking the show on the road. I fell victim to my spare tube having a hole in it and using up both of my cartridges before I realized what was happening. And I was saved at the bottom of Mt Diablo by generous bicycle brotherhood. I now carry two tubes and three cartridges, plus Park self sticking patches. Someday I will return the favor to someone else, I always ask as I pass.
On another note CO2 cartridges are reasonably priced if you buy in bulk off of eBay. I got 30 16 gram threaded mil spec for $25.00 shipped. Sure beats two for $9.95 at LBS. And I use the PlanetBike Air Kiss filler which works OK for me.
jw
On another note CO2 cartridges are reasonably priced if you buy in bulk off of eBay. I got 30 16 gram threaded mil spec for $25.00 shipped. Sure beats two for $9.95 at LBS. And I use the PlanetBike Air Kiss filler which works OK for me.
jw







