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Old 12-27-07 | 11:53 AM
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I was thinking of getting one of these, anyone have firsthand experience? Right now I have an old silca frame pump that is adequate, but co2 is sooooo sexy (almost as sexy as those FM pumps)

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I have this one, and have used it many times. You can use threaded and threadless cartridges (cheaper). I've used the built in pump once and it's crap. 200 pumps to 50psi (only 70psi more to go! yeah I counted). The manual pump doesn't work anymore, and I have no idea why.
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Old 12-27-07 | 12:02 PM
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OK. So you have a flat but can't see where it occurred - how do you find the source without using part of a cartridge?
I just check the inside of the tire and stick in my spare tube. Before putting my spare tube in my tire I inflate it with my mouth enough to give it some shape.

Incidentally, I'm writing this from home so, obviously, I've always found a way to get back.
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Old 12-27-07 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
I just check the inside of the tire and stick in my spare tube. Before putting my spare tube in my tire I inflate it with my mouth enough to give it some shape.

Incidentally, I'm writing this from home so, obviously, I've always found a way to get back.
I've had problems with very small debris (slivers of metal think like a pick of a staple) caught in the tire. They are nearly impossible to find unless you know where to look. If you inflate the tube with quite a bit of air, you can find the small hole and match it up with the tire to find the cause. I've seen people use half or all of a cartridge just to find the source. That's why I think a combo mini/CO2 inflator is the way to go.
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Old 12-27-07 | 01:51 PM
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I like buying the cheap BB gun CO2 cartridges but I recently heard that there is oil in these that may affect the tube???? I have never had a problem and they are way cheaper than buying bike CO2 cartridges. I have not seen a CO2 inflator that will except both 12 and 16gram cartridges and also except both in a threaded or non treaded style.
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Old 12-27-07 | 01:55 PM
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so any particular inflator you've had good luck with?
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Old 12-27-07 | 01:58 PM
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Using only CO2, I've never once been stranded in over 40,000 miles and 10 years of cycling (with the exception of one nasty unrepairable sidewall glass cut).

My recipe for success is:
  • 1 spare tube (carried in a ziplock bag, with talcum powder).
  • 3 CO2 cartridges (one stored inside the inflator).
  • 1 set of Park glueless patches (for the 2 flats in one ride scenario).
  • 1 Genuine Innovations Ultraflate CO2 inflator.

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Old 12-27-07 | 02:07 PM
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Have you tried the topeak road morph? They're like $30 online and they're as good as floor pumps.


That may look good with a Brooks saddle and panniers, but not on my bike. That pump is enormously.
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Old 12-27-07 | 02:26 PM
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That may look good with a Brooks saddle and panniers, but not on my bike. That pump is enormously.
You may look funny walking down the road in reverse high heel shoes but your bike will look great

You can mount it elsewhere. Can you find it on this bike?

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Old 12-27-07 | 09:20 PM
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You may look funny walking down the road in reverse high heel shoes but your bike will look great

You can mount it elsewhere. Can you find it on this bike?

Yep. Behind the down tube on the bike that needs the stem flipped
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This is what I use. Very compact, and works well.

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Old 12-27-07 | 10:21 PM
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Yep. Behind the down tube on the bike that needs the stem flipped
Nope. Doesn't need the stem flipped 'cause I don't race
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Old 12-27-07 | 10:35 PM
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I have a mini-pump and it works just fine. It has a foot so you can use it like a regular pump and has an extension so you wont bend your valve. Besides no refills are needed.
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Old 12-27-07 | 10:45 PM
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Have you used a nice floor pump? IMO, your statement is not true. That being said, it's almost as good. The Road Morph is my travel pump: it goes in the suitcase w/ my folding bike for when it's time to reassemble. On the road, I take a mini-pump + CO2 combo or simply the cute little chuck inflater. At home, Joe Blow Pro floor pump.
Agreed, the Road Morph is good, but it isn't as good as the Blackburn floor pump I have. I formerly had a different model Topeak that stunk something awful. Best I could do was 60PSI no matter how hard I worked.
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Old 12-28-07 | 06:25 AM
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I have so few flats (2/yr in 5000mi) that carrying a pump isn't worth the hassle. A spare tube and a couple of cartridges are perfect and fit nicely in my jersey pocket. Why prepare for the worse when it almost never happens, that is what my cell phone is for.
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Originally Posted by roy harley
I have not seen a CO2 inflator that will except both 12 and 16gram cartridges and also except both in a threaded or non treaded style.
I have this CO2 and it accepts both 12 and 16. https://www.genuineinnovations.com/bi...px?prodid=1003
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Old 12-28-07 | 07:28 AM
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Road Morph on my winter bike, mini-pump and inflator for summer.

Two flats last weekend on wet roads. First was a failure around the valve. Changed it quick, and about 5 mi later, flat again - phooey. I (and my buddies) figured I'd missed a tire puncture in my haste to change tire. Pulled off tire, ran my fingers around inside, and found a large, needle sharp, tack!. It was obviously a new acquisition. Extracted tack, borrowed a buddy's tube, Morphed it up, and was back on the road.

The Morph isn't attractive, but it really does the job quickly and reliably.
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Nope. Doesn't need the stem flipped 'cause I don't race
Great looking ride. I really like the orange paint.
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Great looking ride. I really like the orange paint.
That's the reason I bought it. I have waaaaay too many black, blue or white bikes. I needed some color in the garage
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Originally Posted by AEO
Have you tried the topeak road morph? They're like $30 online and they're as good as floor pumps.
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I have saved more than my fair share of people who
a) Did not get their CO2 to fill the tire correctly
b) Did not have an extra CO2 cartridge
c) Did not have a Pump or CO2
d) Did not have an adapter for Schrader.

I Marshall my fair share of Charity rides and by the days end my hands
are sore. Not because of the pump, its the best. Its that too many people count
on the CO2 for more than they think.

Trust me, I have my CO2 in the closet.

Mini-Pumps "may" get you rolling, but never at the proper pressure unless you are an NFL linebacker.

Oh Yeah the Topeak Road Morph comes in 2 models. Don't be cheap, get the one with the pressure gauge, costs $5-$7.50 more.

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Old 12-28-07 | 09:37 AM
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Have you tried the topeak road morph? They're like $30 online and they're as good as floor pumps.
I like the road morph, but that's a considerable exaggeration.
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Old 12-28-07 | 10:33 AM
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The topeak road morph is like a floor pump because you do not use arm muscles to work it. Mini pumps use the arm muscles and get you tired fast. Then you hesitate to inflate to the desired pressures.

Topeak road morph is large and may not fit a small frame size that's got a sloping down tube. No matter what you do, any frame pump detracts from the design of the frame. I carry mine in the backpack. Even a camelback can be modified to carry a Topeak road morph.
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[QUOTE=Not the Slowest;5880603I have saved more than my fair share of people who
a) Did not get their CO2 to fill the tire correctly
b) Did not have an extra CO2 cartridge.[/QUOTE]

What's the big deal? I guess that I must not get it. The first time that I used CO2 to inflate a bike tire on the road it worked flawlessly. The same's true for the last time and every time in between. I generally carry a couple of cartridges with me but I've never needed more than 1 on a ride.

If you want to use a Road Morph or Zefal or some such frame pump, that's fine with me. I just don't identify with all of the horror stories about using CO2. I've never personally experienced anything like what I've heard and I've never witnessed anybody else having such problems using CO2. I'm wondering how many of these stories are true.
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Old 12-28-07 | 02:45 PM
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I have witnessed on a number of occasions people attempting to use CO2 fillers that hadn't practiced in the privacy of their own garage prior to taking the show on the road. I fell victim to my spare tube having a hole in it and using up both of my cartridges before I realized what was happening. And I was saved at the bottom of Mt Diablo by generous bicycle brotherhood. I now carry two tubes and three cartridges, plus Park self sticking patches. Someday I will return the favor to someone else, I always ask as I pass.

On another note CO2 cartridges are reasonably priced if you buy in bulk off of eBay. I got 30 16 gram threaded mil spec for $25.00 shipped. Sure beats two for $9.95 at LBS. And I use the PlanetBike Air Kiss filler which works OK for me.

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