How thick is the material that makes up a Dura-Ace 7800 crankarm?
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Interesting. Makes sense I guess (to my pea brain).
That's what I would be worried of. We've all made posters with permanent markers, and whenever you try to color a solid area with them, it ends up looking like bunch of crappy stripes. I can't wait to see the before/after pics, and the pics of the actual process.
That's what I would be worried of. We've all made posters with permanent markers, and whenever you try to color a solid area with them, it ends up looking like bunch of crappy stripes. I can't wait to see the before/after pics, and the pics of the actual process.
I sold about 300 of those exhaust system modifications (above) for jet-skiis over a 6 year period. I'm really good at it. And yes, if you think about it, that's 300 hours of practice!

Granted, if you get gasoline on your chain rings or crankarms, the finish will come right off. Just repeat the process again and it looks like a brand new part again. When I clean my rings and chain, I'll just wrap a micro-fiber towel around each crank arm just incase the citrus chain cleaner I use will remove it. Otherwise, it's ALOT tougher than you'd think...
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Ok, this is completely hilarious and enjoyable. Awhile back there was a thread about using a Sharpie, which I used to modify the color on my cycling shoes and to change the logos on my wheelset. Now this, I like it. I have an old crank for a commuter that would look great in black, I may try this. haha, thanks!
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Ok, this is completely hilarious and enjoyable. Awhile back there was a thread about using a Sharpie, which I used to modify the color on my cycling shoes and to change the logos on my wheelset. Now this, I like it. I have an old crank for a commuter that would look great in black, I may try this. haha, thanks!


I "repainted" the spokes on my Bontrager Race X Lite wheels last week and they look brand new again.... maybe even better than brand new <grins>. I just sanded them down to the metal and then made them nice and black!
I've used them to make my hats black again too! Sometimes when I'm out in the sun alot, they start to fade. In about 20 minutes time I can make my hat look brand new again!

Sharpie permanent markers won't give the results on metal. Be sure to use Avery Marksalot pens.
I've also used Marksalot pens on personal watercraft (ie: jet-ski) seat covers, mats, cloth seats in cars and even to black out sponsor names on black bicycle jerseys... hahaha
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Yeah, it is pretty funny but even though it's insane, it also WORKS, which makes the whole concept even more amazing! 

I "repainted" the spokes on my Bontrager Race X Lite wheels last week and they look brand new again.... maybe even better than brand new <grins>. I just sanded them down to the metal and then made them nice and black!
I've used them to make my hats black again too! Sometimes when I'm out in the sun alot, they start to fade. In about 20 minutes time I can make my hat look brand new again!
Sharpie permanent markers won't give the results on metal. Be sure to use Avery Marksalot pens.
I've also used Marksalot pens on personal watercraft (ie: jet-ski) seat covers, mats, cloth seats in cars and even to black out sponsor names on black bicycle jerseys... hahaha


I "repainted" the spokes on my Bontrager Race X Lite wheels last week and they look brand new again.... maybe even better than brand new <grins>. I just sanded them down to the metal and then made them nice and black!
I've used them to make my hats black again too! Sometimes when I'm out in the sun alot, they start to fade. In about 20 minutes time I can make my hat look brand new again!

Sharpie permanent markers won't give the results on metal. Be sure to use Avery Marksalot pens.
I've also used Marksalot pens on personal watercraft (ie: jet-ski) seat covers, mats, cloth seats in cars and even to black out sponsor names on black bicycle jerseys... hahaha
How difficult is it to make them black, as you did? Do you have to bake them after you are done?
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It's fairly easy blacking out the spokes...
Just lightly sand the spokes. Use NEW pens. It will take about an hour to do both wheels and mine look really nice. You have to do both sides od the spokes AND the top and bottom of the blade.
Don't have to bake the spokes or wheels. If you get a knick in the spoke, just touch it up and it looks brand new again!
Just lightly sand the spokes. Use NEW pens. It will take about an hour to do both wheels and mine look really nice. You have to do both sides od the spokes AND the top and bottom of the blade.
Don't have to bake the spokes or wheels. If you get a knick in the spoke, just touch it up and it looks brand new again!
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Well, here is an update:
It appears that the Marksalot "blueing" will work WITHOUT having to sand the crankarms! I did a test on the back side of the drive side crankarm and what do you know, it sticks just fine AND looks fabulous.
It's looking like I can do the whole process in about an hour and a half.
Here's what I started out with:
Picture #1: Brand new Shimano Dura-Ace FC-7800 crankset
Picture #2: What you will need to do the job
It appears that the Marksalot "blueing" will work WITHOUT having to sand the crankarms! I did a test on the back side of the drive side crankarm and what do you know, it sticks just fine AND looks fabulous.
It's looking like I can do the whole process in about an hour and a half.
Here's what I started out with:
Picture #1: Brand new Shimano Dura-Ace FC-7800 crankset
Picture #2: What you will need to do the job
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Using short squared swipes with the pen, work in ONE direction (I started at the rear of the crank arm and worked my way out torwards the pedal threads...
At the end of this stage, it should look like this:
At the end of this stage, it should look like this:
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Carefully peel the tape back and completely off. Use a straight edge to make it neat and even and fill in any uneven areas...
Looks like this when done:
Looks like this when done:
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Now I'll let the ink dry and harden, then I'll pop it in the oven.
It doesn't look like I'll even need to remove the drive side crank arm from the ring(s). I'll go do that one now.
It doesn't look like I'll even need to remove the drive side crank arm from the ring(s). I'll go do that one now.
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Ba-Da-Bing....
The final result!!!
Not bad for my first one, but I can do much better after doing a couple more. I can make the "Dura-Ace" "box" look better. I did that essentially with a straight edge and alot of freehand. I can also just black it out and then put some really nice silver reflective "Dura-Ace" stickers (same size as what's on the crankarms now). I haven't decided yet...
I went with gloss black because it's easiest to do.I'll stick it in the oven for 5-6 minutes and it'll be ready to bolt on to my bike.
Not bad for a mod that costs less than $5.00 if you are looking for something different.
Now... I'm thinking the outside ring (the satin part below the teeth on the big ring might look kinda groovy black as well). I think I'll just put it on my bike and see what it looks like.
Here's a few finished pictures:
The final result!!!
Not bad for my first one, but I can do much better after doing a couple more. I can make the "Dura-Ace" "box" look better. I did that essentially with a straight edge and alot of freehand. I can also just black it out and then put some really nice silver reflective "Dura-Ace" stickers (same size as what's on the crankarms now). I haven't decided yet...
I went with gloss black because it's easiest to do.I'll stick it in the oven for 5-6 minutes and it'll be ready to bolt on to my bike.
Not bad for a mod that costs less than $5.00 if you are looking for something different.
Now... I'm thinking the outside ring (the satin part below the teeth on the big ring might look kinda groovy black as well). I think I'll just put it on my bike and see what it looks like.
Here's a few finished pictures:
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I didn't take any pictures with the Dura-Ace crank on the bike before the install but I will definately snap some pictures of it after I install it this time.
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Couldn't you put a light clearcoat on to seal the finish?
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