Is the haro f2 (2005) a good beginners bike???

any body know??

the Haro F2 is an ''ok'' bike...but deffinately go with the F series///F3 and F4 are are of course better bikes...(cranks, wheels, brakes, etc.)...but if you don't want to spend more then the F2 is fine...

The more you spend, the more you get.

This is where I can help you. I was riding my friends around. Its a decent bike, but I'd go with an F3 or F4, because they have better stuff in them, and the F3 has a Version with MAGs. So you can rip it up Old School!

well its only my first bike so it will do

Applies to lap dances too.

I'm telling your wife!

The F2 is a top notch entry level bike. It really doesn't have anything to scream 'yuck' about on the entire bike. Yeah, the parts could all pretty much be upgraded, especially the wheel set. But, those are $$$ upgrades and not something you will get by going up to an F3 or even an F4.

Plus, by purchasing a Haro from your local shop, the local shop should throw in some free maintenance, a 90 day tune-up, and stuff to help make you a regular customer. This is invaluable if you are clueless about how to work on your bike, and you really should WATCH them work on your bike so you get some idea of how they are fixing things so you can do it yourself later on.

Things I like: Seat stay mounted rear brakes (up high), front & rear brakes, 4 pegs, simple design, nice smaller/mid-sized frame, twin cable routing, nice upgrage path to smaller gearing if wanted.

Things I would change first: Wheelset to a chrome plated, sealed setup. This took me a few years to do when I got into riding and was the best thing I ever did when I finally did it.

DO NOT EVER CONSIDER FOR A MOMENT BUYING A BIKE WITH MAGS

I know its you Tony D.! I know its you!

Mags rule! Ok, maybe not. 25 years ago they ruled.

They NEVER ruled.

At some point they were about all that was available and proved to be a bit more durable than the 28 and 36 spoked single walled rims that riders could pick up.

But, the Pergrine Super Pro wheelset that came on the Haro Master in... 88? That was it. 48 spoked chrome plated goodness. Nothing since then has topped it. Wheels became a LOT stronger, but then they were to heavy. The design of the original Super Pro rim of almost 20 years ago is still the standard by which I judge all rims, and most just don't measure up.

Of course... my first 'real' bike had mags. $400 on a Haro Sport... w/mags. Young and clueless.

F2 is a little on the heavy side, but its a great bike.

BMXTRIX............................................................................................. .....................................................you know too much

Is that possible? You should hear me ramble on about A/V gear and projectors.

The technology differences between other bike riding forms and BMX freestyle is pretty amazing I think. Someone into road or mt. bikes think a lot of the stuff transfers over. Or at least the dumb ones do. There is some cross over for sure, but for the most part, the engineering behind bmx bikes just follows different rules because of the stressors we put on those stinkin' little frames.

Haro is about 4 years behind implemenation of things that I said they should do and the stuff that would be standard on bikes.

Not sure how much more things will change in years to come though, bmx bikes are getting about as close to perfect as I can see them.

Keep hoping for a really good drum brake system... not holding my breath.

Pretty much every Mongoose I saw in 1980 had them. Mine did, but I "Upgraded" to Skyways. Keep in mind that all I did was commute and racing/jumping at local tracks. 5 or 8 feet of air with cast wheels was no easy task back then.

I started with flatland, and I'll die with flataland. But, I constantly had tires coming off the rim and the headaches of flexing mags. I finally snapped them about a year later and picked up a new Sport with 48's. Not chrome plated... Took another year or so before I got chrome plated, then several more years before I got sealed hubs.

I still have my original axle in my original sealed hub. Put it together 12 years ago, haven't maintained it once - still rolls great. Rebuilt two rims around it.

im looking at haro backtrails and please some tell what i should use for going off simple jumps

plaese

there a lil haeavy i like the bars though my friend has a backtrail x1 it all he does is single jumps

??
so i should go
for x1

and whats the diff besides price

and stupid little things**********???

flair u mean air**********????