Time ATAC XS Titan Carbon V. Egg Beater Trippe Ti
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Time ATAC XS Titan Carbon V. Egg Beater Trippe Ti
Ok, I realize that these are both expensive pedals, but I'm trying to shave weight (yes I'm turning into a weenie). My heavy pedals and shoes seem like good candidates, especially considering that they are rotating mass and all that. I'm under the weight limit on the egg beaters by about 40 lbs, so that is not an issue.
I want to stick with shoes with recessed cleats so that I can walk on them, especially around my house and my office building. That's non-negotiable at this point even if they are much lighter (I've never had a problem with hotspots with the small SPD cleat platform). I originally cared about compatibility with the SPD pedals on my mountain bike so I got Richey Pro V3 Mountain pedals when I bought the bike. Now I'm going to get new shoes also so I don't care anymore.
I'd like reasonably lightweight pedals, not necessarily silly light. Cost/weight saved is more important to me than cost alone. Although the eggies are more expensive, they are also signnificantly lighter and a much better "value" ($1.78/g vs. $2.41/g).
Does anybody have experience with either of these (or one of their less expensive variants)?, especially compared to SPD. I've always had an eye on the egg beaters, but all the guys at one of the better LBS in town highly recommended the ATACs. Or are there even better alternatives that I haven't considered?
On the same subject, I'd like recommendations for shoes. I currently have Specialized Sonomas from last year that are pretty heavy. Originally my thinking was that they look like regular shoes and I could wear them around the office all day, but the cleats still stick out just enough to clink when I walk, so I ended up just wearing sandals all day, so that doesn't matter anymore either. I was looking at SIDI but I can't tell what the difference between the models are supposed to be. What shoes do you like?
I want to stick with shoes with recessed cleats so that I can walk on them, especially around my house and my office building. That's non-negotiable at this point even if they are much lighter (I've never had a problem with hotspots with the small SPD cleat platform). I originally cared about compatibility with the SPD pedals on my mountain bike so I got Richey Pro V3 Mountain pedals when I bought the bike. Now I'm going to get new shoes also so I don't care anymore.
I'd like reasonably lightweight pedals, not necessarily silly light. Cost/weight saved is more important to me than cost alone. Although the eggies are more expensive, they are also signnificantly lighter and a much better "value" ($1.78/g vs. $2.41/g).
Does anybody have experience with either of these (or one of their less expensive variants)?, especially compared to SPD. I've always had an eye on the egg beaters, but all the guys at one of the better LBS in town highly recommended the ATACs. Or are there even better alternatives that I haven't considered?
On the same subject, I'd like recommendations for shoes. I currently have Specialized Sonomas from last year that are pretty heavy. Originally my thinking was that they look like regular shoes and I could wear them around the office all day, but the cleats still stick out just enough to clink when I walk, so I ended up just wearing sandals all day, so that doesn't matter anymore either. I was looking at SIDI but I can't tell what the difference between the models are supposed to be. What shoes do you like?
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I've ridden the Candy C pedals for almost a year now, and was so happy with them that I just bought (as in 1 hr ago) the Eggbeater C with the blue spindles:

59 bucks at Performance!!! 
They may not be as lite as the full-on Ti model, but at 294gm/pair, you're never gonna find a pedal as good as this for 59 bucks.
What I like about Eggbeaters:
- Float: smooth and generous. Lots of people claim that it is a "re-centering" type of float, which is true to a miniscule "degree" (no pun), but nowhere as extreme as some people make it out to be (just a few people taking the "features" list on the Speedplay website a little too seriously). I've only discovered the re-centering charactersitic after having clipped the shoe in (sans my foot) and manually pushing the shoe inboard, then releasing: barely noticeable, however it may be. I have pretty sensitive knees and haven't had any problems whatsoever. The float is smoother and less restrictive, in fact, than my SPDs, which I had to give-up because they were killing my knees. I've noticed that the Eggbeaters allow my feet to freely seek-out it's natural angle differently than what my SPDs allowed them to prior, which leads me to believe that for the exact same cleat position on the same shoe, the SPDs were forcing me into misalignment.
- Entry: most people like the fact that Eggbeaters are easy to get into, which is true, but what I like most about them is that you can get into them heel first! Just snag the back of the cleat onto the spring opening with your crank at the 1 o'clock position, then follow-through with your pedal stroke and the cleat pops right in by the time your crank gets past the 4 o'clock position. Takes a bit of practice to get used to, but once you master the technique, it just feels more natural than the conventional toe-down method. There's also the ever popular "mash-straight-down" method of pedal entry (12 o'clock position) that works so well that clip-in feels almost automatic.
- Weight: these sub-300gm pedals mean you can be a weight-weenie without even trying! If you must have paper-lite, then fork-over the dough for the pricey Ti models.
- Simplicity: who'd have ever thought that a pedal this insanely simple by design would deliver the features that it does. Where's all the springs, spring clips, adjusting screws, cam plates, precision-machined platform.....???
- Low pedal-to-spindle distance: after changing-out my SPDs for the Eggbeaters, I had to lower my saddle slightly. It really is that noticeable.
- They look cool: c'mon, you know they do.
The only thing you need to look-out for is when using MTB shoes. The tread on certain shoes may be extremely high, while on others the tread may be irregular, either of which can catch and bind against the outer ends of the spindle which make up the pedal's small platform. For this, you simply use the included shims installed under your cleats to raise the cleat slightly, or you can trim away some of the tread with a dremmel tool and sanding wheel. If you want to use road shoes, you won't have this problem (just make sure you also purchase the road-shoe cleat with the old Dura Ace SPD pedal style "pontoons"):

59 bucks at Performance!!! 
They may not be as lite as the full-on Ti model, but at 294gm/pair, you're never gonna find a pedal as good as this for 59 bucks.
What I like about Eggbeaters:
- Float: smooth and generous. Lots of people claim that it is a "re-centering" type of float, which is true to a miniscule "degree" (no pun), but nowhere as extreme as some people make it out to be (just a few people taking the "features" list on the Speedplay website a little too seriously). I've only discovered the re-centering charactersitic after having clipped the shoe in (sans my foot) and manually pushing the shoe inboard, then releasing: barely noticeable, however it may be. I have pretty sensitive knees and haven't had any problems whatsoever. The float is smoother and less restrictive, in fact, than my SPDs, which I had to give-up because they were killing my knees. I've noticed that the Eggbeaters allow my feet to freely seek-out it's natural angle differently than what my SPDs allowed them to prior, which leads me to believe that for the exact same cleat position on the same shoe, the SPDs were forcing me into misalignment.
- Entry: most people like the fact that Eggbeaters are easy to get into, which is true, but what I like most about them is that you can get into them heel first! Just snag the back of the cleat onto the spring opening with your crank at the 1 o'clock position, then follow-through with your pedal stroke and the cleat pops right in by the time your crank gets past the 4 o'clock position. Takes a bit of practice to get used to, but once you master the technique, it just feels more natural than the conventional toe-down method. There's also the ever popular "mash-straight-down" method of pedal entry (12 o'clock position) that works so well that clip-in feels almost automatic.
- Weight: these sub-300gm pedals mean you can be a weight-weenie without even trying! If you must have paper-lite, then fork-over the dough for the pricey Ti models.
- Simplicity: who'd have ever thought that a pedal this insanely simple by design would deliver the features that it does. Where's all the springs, spring clips, adjusting screws, cam plates, precision-machined platform.....???
- Low pedal-to-spindle distance: after changing-out my SPDs for the Eggbeaters, I had to lower my saddle slightly. It really is that noticeable.
- They look cool: c'mon, you know they do.

The only thing you need to look-out for is when using MTB shoes. The tread on certain shoes may be extremely high, while on others the tread may be irregular, either of which can catch and bind against the outer ends of the spindle which make up the pedal's small platform. For this, you simply use the included shims installed under your cleats to raise the cleat slightly, or you can trim away some of the tread with a dremmel tool and sanding wheel. If you want to use road shoes, you won't have this problem (just make sure you also purchase the road-shoe cleat with the old Dura Ace SPD pedal style "pontoons"):
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Originally Posted by umd
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I want to stick with shoes with recessed cleats so that I can walk on them, especially around my house and my office building. That's non-negotiable at this point even if they are much lighter (I've never had a problem with hotspots with the small SPD cleat platform).
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I want to stick with shoes with recessed cleats so that I can walk on them, especially around my house and my office building. That's non-negotiable at this point even if they are much lighter (I've never had a problem with hotspots with the small SPD cleat platform).
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I'm not a weight weenie, but you're basically cancelling out the weight savings of the pedals--what's the point?
good luck
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From: Powhatan, VA
Bikes: 2005 Trek 5000; 2006 Gary Fisher Rig
I have the Time pedals (albiet not Ti) on my Fischer Rig, Single Speed. I hate them. They don't adjust, in my opinoin they are hard to get into, and even harder to get out of (just look at my knees). I'm replacing them with either Shimano or Egg Beaters.




