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Old 03-13-07 | 07:43 AM
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"Cantilever" threaded pads on ye old style sidepulls?

Should be an easy question...

Can I put these:



on single pivot sidepull brakes?

Since the package says "for ALL Threaded stem brake systems" I assume that I could use these on sidepulls (since they are threaded) but I wanted to check here first.
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Old 03-13-07 | 08:36 AM
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If they will fit between the rim and forks, then maybe? A lot of times the shoes end up hitting the forks on the back end part. The threads look like they would work, just the clearance could stop you,,,,,BD

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If I'm not mistaken...based on this pic...I think they should be ok:

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You may have clearance problems with those pads. Take a look at the thinline or the mountain pads. More info on Sheldon's site.
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I've used the kool stop thinline v-brake shoes/pads on my old road bike centerpulls, and I'm currently using cartridge-type v-brake shoes with kool stop cartridge refill pads (for v-brakes) on them. If you have clearance problems, as others have said, this thinner pad might work better. But if there's no clearance problem, I don't see why the Eagle 2's wouldn't work-
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Ok, to be on the safe side...I'll get the thinline/mtb pads. The LBS near my work stocks them. I'll report back this evening as to the (hopefully) increase in stopping power.
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Old 03-13-07 | 10:20 AM
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I'vew done exactly that, it was on some Diacompe 500 calipers. They fit fine, but that will be a function of frame/ fork design. An great upgrade in braking.
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The clearance problem is in the front, not the rear. You can use the thinline pads in the front and the Eagle 2's in the rear if you want.

I've bought a couple of sets of Kool Stop Continentals from an eBay seller for $7.95 for one bike's worth. There is no clearance problem, but you have to set your toe-in the old fashioned way.
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I also added cantilever pads like those in your photo to my old ten speed and they work just fine. I did omit some of the dished washers that allow toe-in adjustment because the threaded studs were too short to accept the nut, otherwise.
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OK...I'm pleased to announce the mountain thinline combo pads work. And I'm even more pleased that the stopping power is par with what I was used to with cantis on my MTB. Less importantly...they look soooo good!



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You were smart to get the cartridge-type shoes and pads, next time you need brake pads the switch will be much cheaper and easier than with the one-piece thinline shoes-
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Canti performance with a sidepull? Sign me up! I have three old school MTB's right now, and even with dried out looking pads they stop NOW, hehe. Having that performance on a road bike would be great!,,,,BD
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Canti performance with a sidepull? Sign me up! I have three old school MTB's right now, and even with dried out looking pads they stop NOW, hehe. Having that performance on a road bike would be great!,,,,BD
Well, keep in mind my perspective here...this vintage Raleigh is my first roadie. I picked it up a couple of months ago off of craigslist. I plan for it to be my "primary" bike, because, quite frankly...the bike fits me perfect, seems to have been barely riden, is alot quicker than my MTB, is in pretty good condition, and I can't exactly drop considerable cash on a comtemporary roadie right now. In the last 2 years, I put 5000 miles on a DS Schwinn Ranger MTB that had cantis, and IMO...I felt like I was able to stop NOW. I also felt comfortable riding it anywhere, day or night. I commuted on it during spring and summer as well. So my "component" experience was DS quality (for what its worth)...so my opinion may be slanted. I felt comfortable with it. I did NOT feel totally comfortable riding the Raleigh with the standard brake pads. It seemed as if lithium grease was on the rims...until the KoolStops were put on. As a matter of fact...I wanted to test out the "confidence" psychology and take the roadie out tonite. It was GREAT! Felt totally comfortable, and stopped confidently. (only a 5 mile jaunt...but what the heck!)
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All my roadies lumped together cost less than half a contemporary bike Highest priced one was
about $30. I'm not counting tires/tubes/cables and all the parts needed to get them back up
to par, though. As far as braking performance lately, I got some grey Koolstop Continentals from
ebay, and they're amazing on my Super Sport. How hard you squeeze the lever, is how fast you stop.
They really impressed me with braking feel, especially on such a relatively "crude" old schwinn. I want to try the cartridge type pads on a bike to see if they feel the same.,,,,BD
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If you ever decide to upgrade the brakes, get some dual pivot sidepulls. I'm currently building an old Trek frame as my main rider, and because I'm already way over budget on it, I'll also be setting it up with extant Dia-Compe 500s with the Kool Stop MTB thinlines. However, I'm most accustomed to dual pivots on an old Cannondale, so I'm expecting a decrease in performance.

The "problem" with the dual pivots is that they are hard to find with standard nutted mounts (though Harris Cyclery has them for $40 a pop). So, you would either have to drill wider holes (which I am hesitant to do on my Trek frame) or try the trick Sheldon describes to use recessed mount calipers in standard mount holes.
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