Looking around for exterior socketed track drops for my frame build.

looked at Ceeway, Nova, Henry James... where else can i look?

While I am asking questions...

I have seen lugs with webbing for reinforcement, is there a tech term I am missing, can't find and anywhere.

Ceeway has a socketed track end on this page (LR15). Or do you mean something different? Haven't seen to many other examples of socketed ends.
https://www.framebuilding.com/Frame%20Ends%203.htm

Not too sure what you mean by 'webbing'? Do you mean cutouts in the lugs? Do you have an example? Or do you mean webbing like the reinforcement on some BB shells?
https://www.framebuilding.com/Bottom%20Bracket%202.htm

I saw those (LR15) they have an interior socket, I am thinking more like "super ends", found on makino, 3rensho, nagasawa... with the exterior socket.

the webbing I speak of are stiffening gussets, not sure how else to describe them..

I may be wrong, but my memory is hazily telling me that "Super ends" are 3Rensho brand of socketed dropouts (hence they're found on 3Rensho and Makinos). But other NJS frames have similar ends so there probably are a bunch of manufactures.

I know you can get Kalavinka track ends shipped to the US with ease, but not sure if they have external socket ones. See https://www.kalavinka-bikes.com (though its not working for me right now).

Theres a really helpful Japanese bloke who posts in the Track and Singlespeed/Fixed Gear forums called Tomity. I'd speak to him as he probably knows exactly where to get this type of track end.

Tomity's website is here: https://homepage.mac.com/tomity

Or just post a request in the Single speed/fixed gear forum. Theres quite a few very knowledgeable folks on NJS lugs/frames there.

The lugs in the picture are Arrowhead lugs. I know Bob Jackson builds with them. I thought Ceeway had those. If memory serves, they are made by Long Shen.

Sugarpill,
I too am going to be using Arrow heads for my build but your image looks like a set of Gothic lugs.

*Have you located the dropout? as I too am in the same predicament.

tdhk

I just finished a frame with these purchased from Ceeway. Two things I noticed about this lugset. The webbing makes altering the angles a *****. Last I heard from Ceeway, the BB shell only comes with cable stops and guides, no naked shell. Could be a consideration assuming you're building a track bike.

taken67,

I am bummed to hear that there is no naked shell. Can you post a pic of the finished bike? or a link. I believe but not sure that Bob jackson stocks the Arrowhead lug, maybe I can ask them if its possible to purchase just the naked arrow head bb shell if avail.

tdhk