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Starting the OFFICIAL Ti club....

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Old 11-30-07 | 07:22 PM
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Starting the OFFICIAL Ti club....

Wanna join? I'm number 001.

Must be a devout Ti disciple and ride a titanium frame nearly exclusively.
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Old 11-30-07 | 07:29 PM
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Old 11-30-07 | 07:32 PM
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OK sell me on the advantages of Ti over CF. I've heard Ti described as plush. But what is the real difference?
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Old 11-30-07 | 07:32 PM
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I've lusted after a Litespeed for many years, does that count? 003
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Old 11-30-07 | 07:33 PM
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Ok... so add MEMBER: TITANIUM BIKE CLUB #002 to your sig! Welcome Ti brother!
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Old 11-30-07 | 07:34 PM
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I've lusted after a Litespeed for many years, does that count? 003
When u own ti... you are in. God bless you.
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Old 11-30-07 | 07:37 PM
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My watch is Ti. Does that count?
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When u own ti... you are in. God bless you.
I was in serious negotations with Tom at Tom's pro bike in Buffalo and even had most of the money saved, that is, until my wife found it and spent it.
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What are the advantages/disadvantages of a ti road bike over aluminum or cf? People seemed pretty excited by Titanium frames but I have never had the opportunity to ride one. Could you enlighten me.
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OK sell me on the advantages of Ti over CF. I've heard Ti described as plush. But what is the real difference?
Titanium is extremely resistant to corrosion. This property has lead to titanium’s use as storage containers for caustic materials in the chemical industry. For you as a cyclist, this means that all the salty roads, messy mud and stream crossing you ride over or through will not rust your bicycle, ever. Titanium frames are lifetime frames.

The density of titanium is nearly twice that of aluminum (though aluminum is the weaker of the two metals), but only 56% the density of steel. The stiffness of titanium is also about half that of steel. It therefore follows that the stiffness-to-weight ratio of the two metals is nearly the same. In English this means that titanium is nearly as strong as, but is lighter than steel.

Elongation numbers of a metal tell us how much a material will bend before it breaks. Titanium’s 20 – 30 % elongation beats out steel’s 10 – 15% and aluminum’s 6 – 12%. The lower the elongation number, the more brittle and breakable a material is. The higher the elongation number, the stronger the material is. So, the same amount of titanium stretched out into a tube will wear less than the same amount of steel or aluminum stretched out to the same size tube. Carbon fiber does not stretch; it must be molded into form.

Fatigue strength is another measurement taken to compare metals. Fatigue is the result of accumulated wear from repetitive cycles of force. Aluminum is notorious for having such a low fatigue strength that there is no threshold, no level of strain below which the metal will not fail. This means that the strain on a bike frame from each pedal stroke contributes to the frame’s fatigue failure. The effect can be delayed by over sizing the tubes to add stiffness, but the tubes end up being very thin walled and give a bone-jarring ride. In comparison, titanium has a threshold below which it will never fail, no matter how many times the cycles of force are applied. Yes, this means that titanium will never fatigue and never fail as long as the load it bears is below a certain level (which the stress we put on it riding is).

You are probably wondering by now what the catch is. Can titanium be the wonder-metal it seems? A look at the price tag of a titanium frame indicates that cost is the prohibitive factor. The high cost of titanium is not due to scarcity of the material, but rather the processing involved in both extracting and manufacturing the metal. Titanium is actually highly abundant, being the fourth most available element in the Earth (after aluminum, magnesium and iron). The process of extracting the metal is costly and requires a great deal of energy. The processing requirements are cost-intensive also. Titanium has a reputation for being difficult to work with, though perhaps it is more accurate to say that it is more particular than other metals and requires meticulous procedures, making it time-consuming and labour-intensive. The bicycle industry first saw use of titanium in the 1970s. It has taken some time before we have seen quality craftsmanship in its use.

So now you know the logic behind the claims of titanium as an ideal metal. The next step is to go out and ride one and see for yourself how titanium compares to other frames out there.

*Taken from Everti's website. Very well put.

I've owned 4 high end Carbon frames... went back to Ti. Best I've ever ridden.
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Old 11-30-07 | 07:39 PM
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My watch is Ti. Does that count?
No... but I'd like to see your watch!
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Who wants #2 in the Carbon club?
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$2,000 more expensive than steel, 1lb lighter, not as durable as steel... aluminum wins!
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I have just one bike and it's Ti, although I am more than interested in giving it a CF friend once I can afford it.
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Originally Posted by deadly downtube
$2,000 more expensive than steel, 1lb lighter, not as durable as steel... aluminum wins!

You're a funny guy.... hahahahahaha
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When u own ti... you are in. God bless you.

How about waterboy? Is that position open?
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I had some Tai food the other night.
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Old 11-30-07 | 08:05 PM
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How about waterboy? Is that position open?
You are the official... Waterboy: Titanium Bike Club (Honorary member)
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$2,000 more expensive than steel, 1lb lighter, not as durable as steel... aluminum wins!
Ha!

C > Al > Ti > Fe+C
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Old 11-30-07 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by deadly downtube
not as durable as steel..
Waaaaaaaaay wrong. My ti frame will be on it's 12th set of decals when your steel frame is in a land fill. I love steel though... my Surly Pacer rocks. But Ti still wins.
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Old 11-30-07 | 08:19 PM
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Count me in and I think that makes me member #3. We have a member in our club that has a 99 Litespeed and she wanted a new bike so she bought a $4,000 Specialized Ruby Pro. She hardly ever rides the Ruby, because she likes the ride of the Litespeed so much.
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Old 11-30-07 | 08:20 PM
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Count me in and I think that makes me member #3. We have a member in our club that has a 99 Litespeed and she wanted a new bike so she bought a $4,000 Specialized Ruby Pro. She hardly ever rides the Ruby, because she likes the ride of the Litespeed so much.
Welcome #003. Please add | Member: TITANIUM BIKE CLUB #003 to your Sig.
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Old 11-30-07 | 08:27 PM
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Welcome #004 - Merlin Ti Owner!
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Old 11-30-07 | 08:29 PM
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Welcome #004 - Merlin Ti Owner!
Much respect to you Merlin owner... welcome Mr. #004.
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