The "Dutchificaton" of my bike
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The "Dutchificaton" of my bike
I like my Breezer a great deal. She's been a joy to ride and I'd heartily recommend one as a wonderful utility/commuting/transportation sort of bike. That said, had the LBS that sells Dutch bikes opened a year earlier, I would be riding an Azor Oma, Swan, or Secret Service. There's just something about the upright style that makes riding such a pleasure to me. I've also got a pinched nerve in my shoulder and that gives me problems periodically. While those of you who ride road-style bikes might laugh at this, my Breezer puts me in a more aggressive posture as compared to a Dutch-style bike. I end up with more pressure on my hands, arms, and upper back. That gives me trouble at times.
One of the LBS owners (who sometimes posts here) had mentioned an interest in experimenting with the "Dutchification" of my bike. He was thinking of getting my saddle further back via a seatpost with setback and handlebars with more sweep than what comes standard on the Breezer. I'd been thinking about it and finally decided to try it when Todd told me he had successfully transformed another Breezer. So I asked him to order the parts and stopped by the shop this afternoon to see about getting an appointment or something. To my delight, there was time today for it to be done.
My handlebars were replaced with a set of Nitto North Roads. Sadly, I had to give up my lovely Thompson seatpost. There's not enough setback on any microadjust seatpost to be able to use one, so now I have a straight pipe-style seatpost with this gadget that gives lots of setback and will take my double rail B-67. I think it's a part used on Brompton folders. In the end, my stem also had to be replaced with one that is shorter.
Riding my bike home was so much fun.
I'm sure I'll be tweaking it here and there over the next few weeks, but not having my shoulder so affected by my riding is simply heavenly. I'll post some before pictures and of course the after pictures so you can get an idea of the changes.
EDIT: I mixed up Brompton and Bike Friday.
Fixed now.
One of the LBS owners (who sometimes posts here) had mentioned an interest in experimenting with the "Dutchification" of my bike. He was thinking of getting my saddle further back via a seatpost with setback and handlebars with more sweep than what comes standard on the Breezer. I'd been thinking about it and finally decided to try it when Todd told me he had successfully transformed another Breezer. So I asked him to order the parts and stopped by the shop this afternoon to see about getting an appointment or something. To my delight, there was time today for it to be done.
My handlebars were replaced with a set of Nitto North Roads. Sadly, I had to give up my lovely Thompson seatpost. There's not enough setback on any microadjust seatpost to be able to use one, so now I have a straight pipe-style seatpost with this gadget that gives lots of setback and will take my double rail B-67. I think it's a part used on Brompton folders. In the end, my stem also had to be replaced with one that is shorter. Riding my bike home was so much fun.
I'm sure I'll be tweaking it here and there over the next few weeks, but not having my shoulder so affected by my riding is simply heavenly. I'll post some before pictures and of course the after pictures so you can get an idea of the changes.EDIT: I mixed up Brompton and Bike Friday.
Fixed now.
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Tfahrner also took some "after" pictures of my bike, and I suspect they turned out better than mine. Perhaps he'll post them.






Tfahrner also took some "after" pictures of my bike, and I suspect they turned out better than mine. Perhaps he'll post them.
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Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
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Very cool! Looks sweet!
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Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
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By the way, after I graduate, if I don't wind up settling in Europe, Portland is looking better and better
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Donna -
That looks great and even more than looks, the fact that you will be more comfortable on your bike is really nice.
I always see bikes like this as being English as I associate internal gear hubs, fenders, and North Road bars with my beloved old 3 speeds although Dutchification is probably more apropos since they seem to be the ones carrying on the tradition of building fine roadsters.
That looks great and even more than looks, the fact that you will be more comfortable on your bike is really nice.
I always see bikes like this as being English as I associate internal gear hubs, fenders, and North Road bars with my beloved old 3 speeds although Dutchification is probably more apropos since they seem to be the ones carrying on the tradition of building fine roadsters.
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I think you'll really like those bars. It's a shame you don't see northroad style bars more often. I like the seatpost widget too. I'll have to post a picture of an odd solution that came on a bike I bought used.
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As I ride this setup more, I'll know more. I always see bikes like this as being English as I associate internal gear hubs, fenders, and North Road bars with my beloved old 3 speeds although Dutchification is probably more apropos since they seem to be the ones carrying on the tradition of building fine roadsters.
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stem for a "Kalloy Adjustable Quill Stem" to allow you to very precisely dial in the exact angle for
your body's ultimate comfort.
I have both North roads and Kalloy on all three of my urban bikes and have no more pain in
my shoulders,arms, wrist & back. These stem run about $20 so it's a well worthwhile investment.
As an example place to buy.......
https://www.bicyclesupply.net/Product...spx?id=3572053
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Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?
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I dislike clipless pedals on any city bike since I feel they are unsafe.
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To make those North Roads even more comfortable please consider swapping out your handlebar
stem for a "Kalloy Adjustable Quill Stem" to allow you to very precisely dial in the exact angle for
your body's ultimate comfort.
I have both North roads and Kalloy on all three of my urban bikes and have no more pain in
my shoulders,arms, wrist & back. These stem run about $20 so it's a well worthwhile investment.
As an example place to buy.......
https://www.bicyclesupply.net/Product...spx?id=3572053
stem for a "Kalloy Adjustable Quill Stem" to allow you to very precisely dial in the exact angle for
your body's ultimate comfort.
I have both North roads and Kalloy on all three of my urban bikes and have no more pain in
my shoulders,arms, wrist & back. These stem run about $20 so it's a well worthwhile investment.
As an example place to buy.......
https://www.bicyclesupply.net/Product...spx?id=3572053
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Donna-- with a short stem, you also have the option of reversing the stem if you want the same effect as having handlebars with "more sweep". The downsides are that it doesn't give you as much adjustability as tightwad's solution, and that people who know bikes will think it looks kinda funky.
My girlfriend's old bike has too much seat-to-handlebars distance so I reversed the stem... which changed the riding position to "cruiser-ish" from "regular MTB".
My girlfriend's old bike has too much seat-to-handlebars distance so I reversed the stem... which changed the riding position to "cruiser-ish" from "regular MTB".
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I didn't realize one could reverse a quill stem.
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So far, so good. My mom would be proud of my posture.
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Very nice. I like the way you have two warning devices. One for 'Just letting you know I'm approaching' and the other for slightly more forceful communication. People might take it wrong if the Airhorn was used always. Plus a cycle bell is so much more pleasant a sound than an airhorn.




