Keep Me From Stealing
#1
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Arschgaudi

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From: Chicago (Beverly)
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I've walked, ridden, and driven past the same Raleigh 3 speed for nearly 3 years. It's locked to a rack with a Kryptonite lock. It's seen the passing seasons too many times and seems clear the owner has left it never to return. Me and my bic can free it from it's bondage and make it fly on ashpalt again. It's a lovely old bike that I now covet. Can someone give me permission to do something nasty in order to do something good?
Last edited by Mayonnaise; 10-16-04 at 12:31 PM.
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Night Falls

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From: San Francisco + vancouver
Bikes: Kilfoy custom track
If its been sitting there for three years, gank the f'n thing. TAKE IT. and post pics when you have it re-built
#4
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From: Munich
Bikes: Lemond Alpe d´Huez, Scott Sub 10, homemade mtb, Radlbauer adler (old city bike), Dahon impulse (folder with 20 inch wheels), haibike eq xduro
It sounds like it has been abandoned to me- take it and give it a better home- just make sure that the frame is not rusted through though before your flight or it might be a short and painful one
#5
Jazz from Hell

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From: NYC Tristero!
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Dude bad karma
#6
troglodyte

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From: the tunnels
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I say good karma for giving it a good home. Bad karma to abandon a bike! What a waste!
I wonder if the owner just forgot the key though. What I would do is leave a note on the bike with your contact information for a few days or a week, and then if there is no response, take the bike, then leave another note. That way you are pretty safe.
I wonder if the owner just forgot the key though. What I would do is leave a note on the bike with your contact information for a few days or a week, and then if there is no response, take the bike, then leave another note. That way you are pretty safe.
#7
Thank you for justifying my own criminal thoughts. I've been eyeing a bike daily that appears to be left for dead. My thought is to build it up for someone who really needs it. I hate to see a bike left neglected when someone else would find so much enjoyment out of it. The only thing that has stopped me is the thought of a back story that I am ignorant of. Chances are that I will never take any action but it does haunt my thoughts.
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I'm not one for fawning over bicycles, but I do believe that our bikes communicate with us, and what this bike is saying is, "You're an idiot." BikeSnobNYC
I'm not one for fawning over bicycles, but I do believe that our bikes communicate with us, and what this bike is saying is, "You're an idiot." BikeSnobNYC
#8
Originally Posted by glomarduck
Dude bad karma
#9
biff-o-matic

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From: Austin, TX
Bikes: Moyer Cycles #1 - A fixie of course.
I don't see it as stealing. It's liberation. The bike should be freed.
#10
Jazz from Hell

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From: NYC Tristero!
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If its really abandoned take it but it could be that you might not see the owner riding it and you only see it when its locked up, so leave a note first or poke around first.
Also if any of you nyc people want cool vintage bikes I'm selling so give me a p.m.
P.S. sorry for the shameless advertising.
Also if any of you nyc people want cool vintage bikes I'm selling so give me a p.m.
P.S. sorry for the shameless advertising.
#11
cab horn

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From: Toronto
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Put a note on the bike somewhere.
#12
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From: by a big river
And how should the owner react if it is not abandoned? Should they leave a note back? "Please don't steal my bike?"
#13
Me Likey Bikey

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From: Germany
Bikes: Rivendell Atlantis, Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen, Surly Steamroller
If I get to it first would that be considered stealing from you?
#14
there's a nice bianchi road bike locked up about a block from my apt that looks like it's in the same situation.. hasn't moved in at least a year (that i know of), and looks like it's been there a lot longer. it's too small for me but rebuilt it would make a nice gift......................
#15
Bike Evangelist

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From: Houston. TX
Bikes: Redline Mono-cog converted to BMX cruzer, 79 Peugeot single speed, Fuji s12-s single speed, Centurion Ironman single speed (see a pattern?)
It is pretty easy to tell if a bike has been abandoned vs. just locked up everytime you see it. If the chain and gears are a rusted blob as well as tires that are toast it is a good indication that the thing is not being ridden. If if is parked in a public place in this conditon you can almost bet on it, esp if it has fallen over or not moved in a while covered with bird s*hit. The note idea is not bad if you think the owner might still keep an eye on it. In realiy most people who abandon bikes are not serious bikers and often forget they have a bike. These are the kind of people who stop riding because they have a flat. Usually they are older bikes that even if it was given back to them they might trash it because of weathering and go buy a brand new wal-mart spercial (Vertical, next, Ozone 500, pacific...) with mega springs.
Some friends and I delt with a pair of abandoned bikes at the Co-op we lived at. They had been locked up for over 1.5 years on the propertey, we checked if anyone living in the house owned them, then cut them off and gave them to some of our house mates to use. A few days later a buddy was ridning one down the street and this girl who used to live at the house over 2 years ago (who moved down the street a bit) calimed it was her bike and my buddy stole it. Ha according to Texas Law, a tennant has 30 days to remove personal property from a residence after a lease expires, after that point the propertey manager/owner has the right to dispose of the abandoned propertey. She threatened to call the cops, but for what? We just gave her back the bikes, but the truth is we were in the right. Just food for thought
Some friends and I delt with a pair of abandoned bikes at the Co-op we lived at. They had been locked up for over 1.5 years on the propertey, we checked if anyone living in the house owned them, then cut them off and gave them to some of our house mates to use. A few days later a buddy was ridning one down the street and this girl who used to live at the house over 2 years ago (who moved down the street a bit) calimed it was her bike and my buddy stole it. Ha according to Texas Law, a tennant has 30 days to remove personal property from a residence after a lease expires, after that point the propertey manager/owner has the right to dispose of the abandoned propertey. She threatened to call the cops, but for what? We just gave her back the bikes, but the truth is we were in the right. Just food for thought
#16
Minneapolis
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From: Just under Minneapolis
Bikes: 1998 Stumpjumper Pro, SE Draft, 1984 Bianchi ATB, 1980? Raleigh Comp GS, Civia Loring
Bianchi, apartment, no wheels....Richfield?
I think I'll go get it tonight. It's been there 2+ yrs.
Only a low end 4130 steel...I looked already.
I think I'll go get it tonight. It's been there 2+ yrs.
Only a low end 4130 steel...I looked already.
#17
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From: West Michigan
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If you take the bike it's stealing.
#18
troglodyte

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From: the tunnels
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That doesn't mean its wrong.
Anyone who abandons a Bianchi for 2 years A) probably didn't care about the bike when they left it there, B) sure as heck don't care about it now, C) are careless and negligent, and D) don't deserve that bike anyway. Other than how it may be considered legally, principally I don't think its any different from taking a thrown-out bike out of a dumpster.
Anyone who abandons a Bianchi for 2 years A) probably didn't care about the bike when they left it there, B) sure as heck don't care about it now, C) are careless and negligent, and D) don't deserve that bike anyway. Other than how it may be considered legally, principally I don't think its any different from taking a thrown-out bike out of a dumpster.
#19
do it. our country was founded on the idea that unworked resources belong to everyone. I don't mean this in a Communist Hippie way, but in the spirit of the Homestead Act of 1862. So do it with American pride.
jeff
jeff
#20
Me Likey Bikey

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From: Germany
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I could do the same thing with about a hundred bikes here in Munich. I see these abandoned bikes everywhere with this wire thin rusted locks around them. The chains are all rusted and the tires are sometimes completely disintegrated. Too bad all the abandoned bikes are pieces of crap. I actually made my first frankenfixie out of an abandoned bike here.
#21
Hey, taking a frame out of the trash is also theft under the law.
Go for it. In fact, you may be safer in the case where it's locked up for a long time. That's abandonment. In Boston if the bike hasn't moved for 60 days, it's called abandoned. Though it really only gives the property owner the right to have the public works dept come take it away.
Go for it. In fact, you may be safer in the case where it's locked up for a long time. That's abandonment. In Boston if the bike hasn't moved for 60 days, it's called abandoned. Though it really only gives the property owner the right to have the public works dept come take it away.
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Chairman of the Bored

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From: St. Petersburg, FL
Bikes: 2004 Raleigh Talus, 2001 Motobecane Vent Noir (Custom build for heavy riders)
iffy, but I would be tempted thats for sure...those old 3-sp raleighs are a treat to ride. Man I wish they made bikes that rode that smooth today.
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From: Cleveland, OH
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There has been a old, old Schwinn cruiser, with the Sturmey-Archer(SP?) three speed hub UNLOCKED at the bottom of my stairs for a month. Its been moved, someone stood it up against the building after it was laying in the front lawn for two weeks. Amazing.
#24
My wife ride's a nice bike boom ladies Columbia that a friend found in the trash. Spent WAY too much money fixing it up--new chain, grips, tubes and tires, bell, lights, lots of disassembly, cleaning, and reassembly. Workspace rental was rough. While it came in two versions, one with the SA and one with a SunTour, we weren't lucky enough to get the SA. Anyhow, it's still a treat to ride if a little bit kooky on the steering. Definitely has character.
#25
I bet

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I bet that three speed would make a kickass winter bike. I say take it, fix it up, do something nice to someone else to ease your karmic burden.





