Nashbar has Formula/CXP22 wheels for 139.95. That seems like a great price for a complete wheelset. I paid close to $200 to build (myself) not-so-different wheels a few months ago.

Find them here.



BTW - I have nothing to do with nashbar. Not trying to advertise for them.

don't forget the 10% coupon as well.....

W201 ********* 10 % off total order, good until 4/21

A guy brought a set of those wheels into our shop for trueing a few days ago. He had been riding them for a couple of weeks. They must be machine built, 'cause the spoke tension on the rear wheel was terrible. Some of the spokes were so loose that I could tell just by looking at them. If you get this wheelset, you might want to consider paying a local shop a few bucks to retension them so they'll last.

Formula Hubs don't have the best reputation. Go to roadbikereview.com for the scoop on them.

i love nashbar.....im so happy they have those wheels...even if i wont be buying them...it just makes me all bubbly on the inside

I went to roadbikereview.com and there were no reviews of the Formula hubs.

I am now searching thru their discussions forums for any mention of negative comments of the Formula hubs. So far, just recommendations.

Do you have a specific link?

https://roadbikereview.com/wheels/whe...1_2490crx.aspx

These are road wheels. Although their SS/FG hubs may be different.

the formula track hubs are the same as the IRO/Velocity/NYCBikes/Bensbike hubs that get good reviews around here.
I'm riding them and they're good for the money.

If I needed new wheels I'd buy the nashbar ones and re-tension them myself.

i'm riding formula hubs now and can say nothing but good things....and i've heard nothing but good things about them from this forum.

I was just gonna buy a Suzie MA3 wheel for 90 bucks....

Change of plan.

Don't youse guys look at the hot deals forum?

Hells no. I'm almost always in the fixed gear/ss forum. Sometimes I venture into the road forum, but not very often.

The first Formula Xero series of wheels were problematic mostly issues with spoke breakage and bearing problems. The new ones show promise to be better. Higher spoke count, better bearings and redesigned rim. I'm evaluating a set of 650/571 on my performance recumbent. So far so good. Considering I got them for free. I have used Formula hubs on other applications with no problems including the Formula Track Hubs.

Crap!

They are not there anymore!!!

That's a bummer, man.

That looks like DeNiro.

that is a bummer. those hubs could have really tied the bike together.

formula hubs, in general suck. bigtime. everyone i know who has used hubs of the same ilk read: joytech, quando, whatever the hell comes on the bianchi pista, has had one problem or another with them. stripped lockring threads, crapped out bearings, crapped out cups, or cones...axles breaking or stripping. for a simple beater, maybe they're a good idea, but in the long run, you'll end up spending more money after they die. it's better to get a nice, quality wheelset that'll last, or convert using a cog and BB lockring until you're sure you want to go fixed, then get a nice quality wheelset, than it is to spend $140 on a wheelset with less than stellar hubs.

hell, surly hubs on ma3s aren't that much more expensive than that wheelset up there, and they're a whole lot better.

deniro!??!!

That surely does not abide

It seems that a lot of people here on bikeforums.net (including myself) have had good luck with the IRO/Formula hubs. My IRO hubs came well finished, they were easy to build up, and the bearings seem to be smooth. After several months on them (and I very rarely use anything but back peddling/skipping/skidding to stop) they seem to be good as new. No problems here.

Edit: Just realized that you might not be talking about Forumla/IRO hubs. The Quando hubs that come on the Fuji track bike and the generic hubs that come on the Bianchi Pista are not Formula/IRO hubs (as far as I know).

I do know that the pre 05 pista hubs are garbage, but the 05 seems to be real quality stuff, does anyone know what brand they really are? I have done three alleycats in nyc (brakeless), ridden lots of miles, stop by skidding or skipping primarely and have had nothing but GREAT things to say about these hubs. And as far as cups and cones going bad on the pista, the 05's are sealed so no cups or cones are present in that wheelset.

one of the guys i work with just had to replace his stock '05 pista wheelset because he was breaking spokes left and right, and the bearings were crapping out on him.

the fuji wheelsets use formula hubs. a good customer of ours who uses a front brake and isn't that hard on the bike popped the lockring off his hub a while back. he had been riding the bike for 6 or 7 months when it happened. it's entirely possible that formula of all people has a heirarchy of quality in their track hubs...maybe the IRO ones have better threads? they're the high-flange ones, right? those also come stock on the fuji track pro this year (instead of the full miche group of years passed). maybe they're better than the low flange ones that come on the lower-end fuji track.

there's a reason why they're so cheap, and that reason would be that they're not manufactured as well as say, phils, dura aces, or the suzue promax SBs.

the formula/iro track hubs are all high flange. hell I don't event think they make a low flange hub. I have also never heard of an iro/formula track hub striping threads or breaking spokes and even if the bearings crap out, phil makes some that fit the hubs.

The bearings on my(soon alexi's) '04 Pista are super smooth. I really don't see what the probelm with the hubs would be. The wheelset would be comparable to the wheelset in this thread, nice smooth sealed bearing hubs and Mavic CXP 22's. Pretty nice IMO.