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Fixed gear century
I did my first fixed century yesterday. Honestly, I think 100 miles on the fixed gear was a bit easier for me to complete then doing 50 on a geared bike. My reason is on a geared bike I'm guilty of coasting after a big climb, only to have sore quads for the next climb. It seems like the fixed gear worked the soreness back out and I was ready to take the next climb. Anybody else have this experience?
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Interesting. I have no such experience myself, but I'm considering doing my first ever century next year and debating flipping my rear wheel to the fixed side.
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Originally Posted by Andersper
(Post 18101504)
Interesting. I have no such experience myself, but I'm considering doing my first ever century next year and debating flipping my rear wheel to the fixed side.
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Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2
(Post 18101548)
I would flip it prior to the ride so that you are not figuring out how to ride fixed on a ride like that. You want to be comfortable on the bike before you tackle a century.
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Originally Posted by Andersper
(Post 18101568)
I might flip the wheel in a few weeks when I feel more confident flipping my pedals. I'm still new to clips/straps and starting out on the freewheel side is helping a bit. The race isn't until May next year, so hopefully I've had time to improve my riding technique and general fitness by then.
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Originally Posted by hobbitman
(Post 18101431)
I did my first fixed century yesterday.
A FG century is a bit relentless and a landmark. -Bandera |
Thanks! That means a lot. We had our fairshare of setbacks( my friend crashed and broke his masterlink, and i popped my tube on a 6 percent grade hill) but we were determined to finish. Total mileage ended up being 109.6
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Originally Posted by hobbitman
(Post 18101581)
Definitely get some seat time fixed before your attempt for sure. Ive been riding fixed consistently for a month and there were still times when i felt a little uneasy. Also, if your century is very hilly at all, run both brakes. I overheated my rim on a steep downhill and popped my tube. Its hard to backpedal as well when your legs are worn out.
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Having recently finished my first century on a geared bike, doing it fixed would be one hell of an accomplishment. My friend did one with me and he rode fixed, although again, I was on a geared bike, and he managed 105.7 miles. I need to get mine out and on a century before the end of the year.
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Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2
(Post 18101739)
Having recently finished my first century on a geared bike, doing it fixed would be one hell of an accomplishment. My friend did one with me and he rode fixed, although again, I was on a geared bike, and he managed 105.7 miles. I need to get mine out and on a century before the end of the year.
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Really as long as you get calories in so you dont bonk, dont go too fast, and just keep pushing youll make it. This was my first ride longer than 50(geared or otherwise) and my legs didnt start crapping out until mile 105ish.
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Originally Posted by hobbitman
(Post 18101431)
I did my first fixed century yesterday. Honestly, I think 100 miles on the fixed gear was a bit easier for me to complete then doing 50 on a geared bike. My reason is on a geared bike I'm guilty of coasting after a big climb, only to have sore quads for the next climb. It seems like the fixed gear worked the soreness back out and I was ready to take the next climb. Anybody else have this experience?
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Originally Posted by hobbitman
(Post 18101431)
I did my first fixed century yesterday. Honestly, I think 100 miles on the fixed gear was a bit easier for me to complete then doing 50 on a geared bike. My reason is on a geared bike I'm guilty of coasting after a big climb, only to have sore quads for the next climb. It seems like the fixed gear worked the soreness back out and I was ready to take the next climb. Anybody else have this experience?
Good work! But be careful. There is danger you might get addicted to fix gear riding. I went for a fateful (and very short; 8 miles) fixed gear ride 40 years ago and have never been the same. In fact, I have been known to say even after I got my high end custom titanium bike that if I had to trim my herd to one bike it would be my winter fix gear. Then I had that builder make me a custom titanium fix gear. Sick or what? I have acquiesced to my age however. This new fix gear has a very long dropout and can handle any 1/8" cog made (I have 12 teeth through 23 teeth. A 24 would fit but I have yet to see one. Anyone know where a 24 can be obtained?). On seriously hilly rides with big descents, I have been known to carry a cog wrench on the top tube so I can use three or more cogs. Oh, that bike has done two Cycle Oregons. And I am consider doing it again this year. Again, careful. You could end up a 60 year old fix gear addict like me. Ben |
Originally Posted by Ratzinger
(Post 18103891)
Coasting causing soreness doesn't make much sense to me. You might just be in better shape than you used to be.
You are right. Coasting doesn't cause the soreness. But allowing the lactic acid (or whatever) to sit in idle muscles does. And after that little test, you will believe us! The place where this really plays out is riding in rolling country. Typically, I hit the bottom of the hills well behind the geared guys who passed me going much faster about half way down. They carry their speed say one third of the next hill, then start to bog down and shift down. I hit the bottom of the hill going slower but spinning like crazy but usually pass them about as they are shifting. Sometimes this goes on for miles, passing and getting passed by the same riders. At the end of the day, we feel quite different. They feel beat up by the hills. I feel drained but not sore. (OF course, there are the hills that are too hard. Last year's Cycle Oregon had a 2mile climb with two stretches of 14%. I did it on the 42-17. When I rolled into camp, I was sore! (Especially my arms. Showering, it hurt to touch them with the bar of soap! But thank G** for the downhills! At least my legs got spun out.) Ben |
It's my goal for next year to do a few centuries on a FG -- Just not the one i currently own since its fairly heavy.. N+1 anyone?
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Hi! Could I train in a month for a fixed century? I am in decent shape and can run 5k's pretty easy but have never tried any type of bike race. I have a state bike co Undefeated and would love to ride a century coming up September 26th. I have not be training for it because I did not expect to ride it; however, now I can get it out of my head and want to do it.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
(Post 18104066)
I don't know the biology of it, but I can vouch for the OP here. Being forced to spin at high speeds after a hard climb does flush the lactic acid (or whatever) out of you leg muscles very well. All of us who have done crazy descents after hard, hard fix gear climbs know this. Don't believe me? Try it. And if you live in the flats, you could put your bike on a trainer, spend 10 minutes going 25 on a 53-13 out of the saddle, then sit down, turn the motor you have hooked up to your crankset on and spin the cranks at 180+ RPM for 4 minutes. (Make sure your cleat/pedal connection is really secure!)
You are right. Coasting doesn't cause the soreness. But allowing the lactic acid (or whatever) to sit in idle muscles does. And after that little test, you will believe us! The place where this really plays out is riding in rolling country. Typically, I hit the bottom of the hills well behind the geared guys who passed me going much faster about half way down. They carry their speed say one third of the next hill, then start to bog down and shift down. I hit the bottom of the hill going slower but spinning like crazy but usually pass them about as they are shifting. Sometimes this goes on for miles, passing and getting passed by the same riders. At the end of the day, we feel quite different. They feel beat up by the hills. I feel drained but not sore. (OF course, there are the hills that are too hard. Last year's Cycle Oregon had a 2mile climb with two stretches of 14%. I did it on the 42-17. When I rolled into camp, I was sore! (Especially my arms. Showering, it hurt to touch them with the bar of soap! But thank G** for the downhills! At least my legs got spun out.) Ben |
Originally Posted by jtgolden1s
(Post 18104325)
Hi! Could I train in a month for a fixed century? I am in decent shape and can run 5k's pretty easy but have never tried any type of bike race. I have a state bike co Undefeated and would love to ride a century coming up September 26th. I have not be training for it because I did not expect to ride it; however, now I can get it out of my head and want to do it.
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Originally Posted by jtgolden1s
(Post 18104325)
Hi! Could I train in a month for a fixed century? I am in decent shape and can run 5k's pretty easy but have never tried any type of bike race.
Some are Charity rides w/ a certain amount of support and mix of riders of all skill levels on a wide variety of equipment and speeds. Unless you are an experienced rider on any flavor of drivetrain pushing a pace in a charity ride is extremely risky for yourself and others. Giving yourself a month to train for a charity ride century if you are fit, have seat time and are experience riding FG you may do just fine, or not. Some are Cycling Club rides where advanced paceline skills are required. Not something a month will allow. -Bandera |
Originally Posted by jtgolden1s
(Post 18104325)
Hi! Could I train in a month for a fixed century? I am in decent shape and can run 5k's pretty easy but have never tried any type of bike race. I have a state bike co Undefeated and would love to ride a century coming up September 26th. I have not be training for it because I did not expect to ride it; however, now I can get it out of my head and want to do it.
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Thanks for the replies! I will do a lot of riding in the next few weeks and see how it goes.
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Thank you all for the clarification you guys on the soreness thing. I wasnt quite sure how to word it. Now, as far as training for a century in one month, its very doable if youre already fit. I did 16 miles a day, five days a week for a month on my super hilly commute. Find a good hilly route and ride like your paycheck depends on it. As far as long rides, I did a 35 mile ride 2 weeks prior and wasnt tired at all after so i didnt worry about longer rides. Will it help? Im sure it will but for me it wasnt super necessary. As long as your fitness is on point and your bike fit is solid youll be fine. Lastly, what made my ride much more enjoyable was riding with a buddy. Makes the miles go much faster.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
(Post 18104066)
I don't know the biology of it, but I can vouch for the OP here. Being forced to spin at high speeds after a hard climb does flush the lactic acid (or whatever) out of you leg muscles very well. All of us who have done crazy descents after hard, hard fix gear climbs know this.
You story is interesting but obviously you're in better shape than those road cyclists you're speaking of, or perhaps they're mashing up the hill on too high of a gear and slowing themselves down. There is so much going on besides just geared vs. fixed- too much to be able to draw a specific conclusion from. |
Originally Posted by jtgolden1s
(Post 18104325)
Hi! Could I train in a month for a fixed century? I am in decent shape and can run 5k's pretty easy but have never tried any type of bike race. I have a state bike co Undefeated and would love to ride a century coming up September 26th. I have not be training for it because I did not expect to ride it; however, now I can get it out of my head and want to do it.
From The Octopus, who has finished PBP and climbed Mont Ventoux 4x fixed |
Originally Posted by Ratzinger
(Post 18105200)
I suppose the question is, how much does letting the lactic acid sit in the muscle during the descent really affect you in the long run? I mean, even coasting down a hill, you're going to be using your muscles again shortly anyway. Anyway, I certainly don't know the answer, I'm just surprised that riding hills on a fixed gear could be that much easier, especially since coasting is also providing you a rest.
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