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Compass Tire Hype: Warning

Old 08-30-17, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
YES! You totally get it man!!!!!!!!!

And yes, the silence, it's brilliant, the world disappears. It's like your brain and all your senses shut off, and your body is running on auto pilot. And the best experience is IF you become aware of the state that you are in, you can relax, embrace it, and go deeper. If you think about what you are doing, you'll just ruin the whole thing.

Another beautiful part of it is, you know that your rowing team mate (riding buddy) is right there in that same strange place with you, experiencing every detail at the exact same time. It's like an unconscious bonding ballet. Connected.
It's beautiful until one guy passes out 10 meters from the finish line

I think it's similar to runner's high. I only experienced it once on the bike and that was at like 3am near the end of a 24hr ride. We were on the wide open PCH, I was soaked from rain and I wasn't wearing my eye glasses because they were all smudged up. I was essentially riding blind and just followed a few red lights (my friends' rear lights) when I ended up in this euphoric tunnel vision. That experience drew me in to attempt a second 24hr ride a few months later but nothing happened. That makes me wonder what causes this state of mind or whatever it is to initiate. Why is it less likely to happen while riding a bike than when one goes for a run (assuming it is common enough to have its own term)? I have only experienced it a hand full of times but each instance occurred during a mentally and physically trying time.
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Originally Posted by hairnet View Post
It's beautiful until one guy passes out 10 meters from the finish line
Party over, back to reality.

each instance occurred during a mentally and physically trying time.
I think both are mandatory ingredients for the recipe, and that they must occur simultaneously.

It's all about the drugs. The ones your body makes.

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Old 08-30-17, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Wspsux View Post
I ride my super light compass 38s on terrain I would not in my wildest dreams consider a road. Jagged rocks, dirt, mud, whatever. These things haven't punctured once. I just don't get it. They are amazing tires in every way. Put them back on tarmac and they're schweeeeeet.
A couple weeks ago I discovered what I believed was an error on the Compass site. I suspected that they had transposed the weights listed for the Barlow Pass and the Snoqualmie Pass. I contacted them and ask if it was a typo or if the 38s actually weighed more than the 44s. They confirmed that they were surprised too, that numbers listed were correct, and went on to explain the oddity. They said that the new 44s arrived lighter than they expected, so they started working with Panaracer to get the 38s down, to fall in between the 35s and 44s like they should.

The reason I bring this up is, it's actually good news for you once your current tires wear out. The next batch of Barlows should be significantly lighter. At least that's what they are working towards. Or, if your frame allows, you could move up to 44s and still reduce a lot of weight. That would be a soft and speedy ride.

This is what caught my eye and prompted me to contact them. 1/4 lb less for a larger tire???

Barlow 38mm. Standard and EL, 461 and 417 grams
Snoqualmie 44mm. Standard and EL, 378 and 329 grams

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I wanted to give Compass tires a try and support their concept but the 32mm aren't tubeless ready and 35mm tires are tubeless ready but saw a review in Cyclocross mag in 8/16 that said they were difficult to setup tubeless and after finally getting them to seat they have sealant seepage thru the sidewalls. So I went with Schwalbe G-1's in both 30mm for road & 35mm for off road. They setup tubeless very easy and ride great.
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Old 01-31-18, 09:33 AM
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Shill Zombie Hard at Work

And because I am a truly obnoxious shill, I'm going to quote myself.

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
Everything felt like downhill. If I stopped pedaling the bike would just roll, and roll, and roll, and roll further.
Evidently I wasn't hallucinating.

Recently, the German magazine TOUR published a table showing the ‘five fastest tires in the world.’ We are excited to see our Compass Bon Jon Pass 700C x 35 mm tires on this list, in the company of the fastest racing tires.





And they tested the standard casing, not the "Extralight", which is even faster.




https://janheine.wordpress.com/?mc_c...eid=c50240ab6e
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And, according to Jan, they tested the tires without a rider. Which in theory, should make the wider tires even faster when laden with the weight of a rider.
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Damn you to hell, @SquidPuppet. I thought this thread would free me from the Compa$$ temptation, but NO. You freaking made it worse.


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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
It's all about the drugs. The ones your body makes.

https://www.runnersworld.com/running...a-runners-high
That's gonna be my new glib response when someone asks why I ride a bike.

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Old 01-31-18, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by J.Oxley View Post
Damn you to hell, @SquidPuppet. I thought this thread would free me from the Compa$$ temptation, but NO. You freaking made it worse.


Thanks.
Glad to be of service.

It's worth the price of admission just to experience how weird they are. At least once. It's like, "Why, why, why, why, didn't I feel that? I saw it. I know I ran over it. Why???......"
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Yea, they've locked up my tire dollars for, I dunno, 2 more decades. Why would I ever buy 90$ Vittoria's?
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Miss my Bon Jons... Thinking about going to the Steilacoom though next.

Has anyone here set up either tubeless?
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last yr I spent $100 on tires for a $50 beater bike
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these tires are freaks
& still no photos? come on man, don't you know some of us can't read?
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
& still no photos? come on man, don't you know some of us can't read?
I mean. If you insist.

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Wait what actually popped the tire?
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For me it was sharp rocky single track that finally popped my extra lights.
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I've been riding the regular version (in 28 and 32) for 3 years now on 3 bikes. They are so light and supple that I saw no reason to try the extra lights. I figured I didn't need sidewalls even more flimsy.

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
And because I am a truly obnoxious shill, I'm going to quote myself.



Evidently I wasn't hallucinating.








And they tested the standard casing, not the "Extralight", which is even faster.




https://janheine.wordpress.com/?mc_c...eid=c50240ab6e
that graph is wrong

No ways are GP 4000 SII faster than Specialized Turbo Cottons ..... not in a million years ... I have a pair mounted on my daily commuter and will get them again (and again) .... it's like comparing chalk with cheese .... The Cotton's are amazing tyres (1365 Km so far .... one puncture that would have punctured a tractor tyre and these are fast, grip like glue in the dry and the wet and make you want to ride faster)
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Originally Posted by dim View Post
that graph is wrong

No ways are GP 4000 SII faster than Specialized Turbo Cottons ..... not in a million years ... I have a pair mounted on my daily commuter and will get them again (and again) .... it's like comparing chalk with cheese .... The Cotton's are amazing tyres (1365 Km so far .... one puncture that would have punctured a tractor tyre and these are fast, grip like glue in the dry and the wet and make you want to ride faster)
You are reading it backwards.
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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
You are reading it backwards.
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Since I don't speak German very well, this is a graph of Rolling Resistance, correct? So the less resistance a tire has, the faster it is, making the Vittoria Corsa Speed Open the fastest tire depicted in this graph?
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Since I don't speak German very well, this is a graph of Rolling Resistance, correct? So the less resistance a tire has, the faster it is, making the Vittoria Corsa Speed Open the fastest tire depicted in this graph?
Ja, das ist richtig.
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Ja, das ist richtig.
Danke! (I had to google that) lol
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I've got masters and corsa on some of my bike. The best road tire I've ever used, and ride every bit at nice as a tubular. They wear rather quickly, and are susceptible to tiny cuts in the rubber, but I have only flatted once.
People like to say they run as nice as the Tubs. But they do not.
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Love this thread and especially @SquidPuppet's writing as well!

Has anyone had specific experiences with the 26x2.3" tires - the Rat Trap? I would be using them (as my moniker indicates) in NYC for daily commuting and once the weather is nice, many tours around long island, the city and upstate (into Vermont).

Currently run Big Apples 26x2.35, which I actually really like, but they feel slow and sluggish. Was hoping to get these for faster more fun ride (I have no idea what supple actually means). My biggest concern is flats... Looking around the net, there's little about the wider tires and lots of complaining about the narrower (see this from another site: I'd try meth before running these tires again). So, please convince me! Life is short, I want the best ride I can get, but I can't have flats all the time on the way to work... Especially curious about standard/ultralight casing on the wider widths. Thanks in advance mates.

(EDIT - weird, my link to the r**t site was removed for some reason. if you're interested in that thread, something search for the phrase "Hands down the worst tires I've ridden: Compass Stampede Pass Extralights aka paperthins", its quite an interesting thread).
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