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Broctoon 08-18-16 11:23 PM

New Guy Checking In Here
 
Hello, friends.

I’m mostly a roadie and have been through several decent geared bikes. Several months ago, I decided to see what all this fixed gear excitement is about. I acquired a Surly Steamroller in need of some TLC and went about setting it up according to my tastes.

This Surly was to be used for general fitness riding, occasional commuting, chasing my kids around the park, and cruising paved trails with my wife. Therefore, I chose a riser bar, front brake, sensible 700x25c tires, toe clips, one water bottle cage, and 39 x 14 fixed drive. I also have a 16 tooth freewheel, but I've not used it yet.

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...psvoamcp8z.jpg

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This pink bar had the shape I wanted, and it was CHEAP, so I went with it. Stole a matching water bottle cage off my daughter’s bike, and voila!—I can pretend the color choice was deliberate.

I might replace the seat. I’ve used this one for a long time on other bikes. While I don’t dislike it, I kind of want a nicer one on the ‘roller. I’m considering getting a Brooks C15, just have to talk myself into coughing up the 150 clams.

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...psjeeqltdl.jpg

This immediately became one of my all-time favorite bikes. It fits me just right, rides beautifully, and requires very little attention (now that I have it dialed in). The Origin8 crank that came on it was junk, and I went through a few others before finding one I’m happy with. Nothing on the bike is what you’d call high-end or light weight, but I didn’t spend much money on it, and let’s face it: I’m not trying to race it on a velodrome. It works great for its intended purpose.

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Finding myself so pleased with the Surly, I decided I want another fixie, but one set up more like a track bike. I had a pretty limited budget and thought it would be fun to build a conversion, rather than save up for a complete factory built bike.

My idea for this one is something I can take to flat-ish, mostly traffic-free roads and just go all out for an hour or so at a time, on a durable, pure, and simple machine. So I kept my eye open for a cheap ‘70s to early ‘80s ten speed. It would need horizontal dropouts, which most bikes had during that era. It would of course have to be my size (about 56 cm). And the frame would have to be in decent shape. The rest is unimportant, because I’d scrap most of it and use my own wheels and other parts. The search was on…

It only took a few months before an excellent candidate appeared on a local classified website. It’s a twelve speed Takara that was just begging to be converted:

Before
$25 bike, weighs 33 lbs. as shown. Missing chain (easy to replace) and rear derailleur (I don’t need that anyway). Needs a little cleaning up, but the frame is in really good shape overall.

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...pseyx6je1l.jpg

Stripped down
Frame and fork weigh about eight pounds. I threw away a bunch of excess items: front derailleur, shifters, cables, brake calipers, brake levers (times four!), reflectors, second chain ring, five extra rear cogs, kick stand, various brackets and cable stops. I’ll also ditch heavy steel parts in favor of more elegant replacements: wheels, handlebar, seatpost, and pedals. The crank is heavier than it needs to be, but I’m keeping it (to save money and because I kind of like it).

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...psxkty8ryo.jpg

I wish this were like many European bikes of its era with chrome fork legs and rear stays. Those are beautiful to me. The important things are that the frame is not bent, seat post isn’t seized, and the bottom bracket threads are in good shape. And I don’t think it’s too ugly. It’s pure coincidence that the color is similar to my Surly. Also happens to be about the same color as my wife’s mountain bike.

After
Weight is now just a hair under 22 lbs., ready to ride. Improvements include sealed cartridge bottom bracket, nice 700c wheels with high-flange hubs from All City, modern tires, track handlebar, excellent seat & seat post, Speedplay clipless pedals… and nothing that it doesn’t need. Drivetrain is a pretty steep 53 x 16, which will make me work hard, but that’s okay because I want to go fast! I’m into this around 400 bucks total, including the pedals, the most expensive item on it.

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...psgpsnf3h8.jpg

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...psrq4o0vfi.jpg

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...psas8bjfai.jpg
It most certainly is special.

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...psl4y9zugd.jpg
Now truly customized. But I need to scrape off the 2, or at least cover it up, because it’s now just a Custom 1.

I’ve taken it for a few rides, and here are my initial impressions:

1. The low, forward bar makes the bike seem rather compact and sporty, in spite of frame geometry that suggests otherwise.

2. Fit is very nice for my 5’11” body.

3. Gearing is just right for the flat terrain where I’ll normally ride it. Hills, on the other hand, would be a problem.

4. In terms of handling and ride quality, this frame is a flex-o-matic wonder. The sticker on the seat tube says “high tensile tubing,” which I assume to mean steel, but they don’t specify that, so maybe it’s got some rubber parts mixed in. This thing makes my Surly feel like a tank.

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...pskykhsrlq.jpg

Now I’m hooked. Geared bikes will continue to have their place in my garage, but I think I’ll turn to my fixies often and not be sorry at all to spend time and miles on them.

As a SS/FG newbie, I’m open to feedback of all kinds from you more experienced folks. I don’t think I’ve done anything here that qualifies as a jackass hipster wannabe move, but if I’m wrong, please say so. Have ideas on how I can improve my bikes even more (for not much dough)? Let me know. And if you have any questions, ask away, because I like talking about my projects!

seau grateau 08-19-16 12:29 AM

Nice bikes! Though 53-16 brakeless is a little kooky IMO.

Carcosa 08-19-16 07:40 AM

Welcome. Good first post. Glad to see someone having fun, trying it out right and not spending much money.

Usually the first thread is "Which sh***y bike should I buy from these companies no one has heard of?"

Broctoon 08-19-16 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by seau grateau (Post 18995490)
Nice bikes! Though 53-16 brakeless is a little kooky IMO.

What do you mean "brakeless?" I can stick the toe of my Chuck Taylor under that fork crown and stop on a dime!

Seriously now, if I were riding in traffic, I'd agree it's not just kooky, but downright stupid. On the roads this bike is intended for, a brake would be overkill. At the place where I plan to take it most often, you could safely ride a single speed without brakes.

Leukybear 08-19-16 10:05 AM

Welcome aboard broc!

SquidPuppet 08-19-16 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Broctoon (Post 18995461)
Have ideas on how I can improve my bikes even more (for not much dough)? Let me know.

Welcome.

Surly. Cover the pink bars with cheap black cotton tape, get a black cage to match, give your daughter back her cage. Looks hot where you live, she'll need her water.

Takara. Silver seat post to match the headset, stem, bars, cranks.

Both bikes, center the largest tire label over the valve stem. You are a roadie, you should already know that. :p

No photographs of the NDS. Ever. You are a roadie, you should already know that. :p

53 x 16? Pray for no headwinds. ;)

Wspsux 08-19-16 01:49 PM

Moar rubber on steam roller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Broctoon 08-19-16 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 18996361)
Surly. Cover the pink bars with cheap black cotton tape, get a black cage to match, give your daughter back her cage. Looks hot where you live, she'll need her water.

No way. The pink has grown on me now. We worked out a deal when I had my eye on her cage. I gave her a silver cage I had lying around and bought her a nice, new, pink bottle in exchange. So no one's getting dehydrated here.

I'm secure enough in my manhood to ride this. Although, come to think of it, I was questioned by a lady at work the first time I rode it there. Ashley is a 102 lb., 5'3" girly girl. Cute as a bug's ear. She rides a yellow Honda Grom.

Ashley: Nice bike.

Me: Thanks. It's almost finished.

A: Why don't you have any handlebar grips?

M: I said it's almost finished.

A: Oh. Why is your handlebar pink?

M: Because that's what color they painted it... I mean, that's what I wanted... I mean, never mind. It's because I'm cheap. Mind your own business!


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 18996361)
Takara. Silver seat post to match the headset, stem, bars, cranks.

But I chose the black one to match my pedal spindles. Crap! Now I have to get a black headset, stem, bar, and crank.

Actually, I like silver posts, because if they get scratched, you can easily sand/polish them smooth. In this size, the online shop only had a silver single-bolt type and this black micro adjustable one. I went with function over color. Remind me not to scratch it.


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 18996361)
Both bikes, center the largest tire label over the valve stem. You are a roadie, you should already know that. :p

No way. The labels are directly opposite the stems, right where the manufacturer put them. Crap! Now I have to buy four new wheels.


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 18996361)
No photographs of the NDS. Ever. You are a roadie, you should already know that. :p

Actually, I tried to get some from each side. I love both sides of my bike and don't care about internet rules. It just happened with the Takara that all the pics with decent lighting were drive side.


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 18996361)
53 x 16? Pray for no headwinds. ;)

Around here, the only times we usually get wind are, um... always. Crap! I gotta find a big fat guy to draft behind.

Broctoon 08-19-16 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Wspsux (Post 18996869)
Moar rubber on steam roller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But I've already got these big ol' 25mm tires. Let's not get carried away.

Actually, I have some knobby Kenda 32s on a CX bike I seldom ride, so I considered moving them over. But I don't plan to take the Surly into the dirt. I've grown pretty fond of the Conti UltraSport slicks.

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...psgaz63tnf.jpg

Broctoon 08-19-16 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Broctoon (Post 18995928)
On the roads this bike is intended for, a brake would be overkill. At the place where I plan to take it most often, you could safely ride a single speed without brakes.

One of my intended workouts:

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4bempkxp.jpg

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/a...pspybxqyuy.jpg

SquidPuppet 08-19-16 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Broctoon (Post 18997264)
No way. The pink has grown on me now. We worked out a deal when I had my eye on her cage. I gave her a silver cage I had lying around and bought her a nice, new, pink bottle in exchange. So no one's getting dehydrated here.

OK. Fair enough.


No way. The labels are directly opposite the stems, right where the manufacturer put them.
No no, not the rim logos, the TIRE label. There is a good reason. If you get a flat and can't see an obvious culprit on the outside of the tire, removing the tube and lining it up will tell you where to look at the tire for the problem. If the tire moves you've lost your reference position, unless you know where it was, which should be centered over the valve.


Actually, I tried to get some from each side. I love both sides of my bike and don't care about internet rules. It just happened with the Takara that all the pics with decent lighting were drive side.
They aren't internet rules, they are Velominati rules. Be careful, they are everywhere. Even where you least expect it.

Velominati ? The Rules :lol:


Around here, the only times we usually get wind are, um... always. Crap! I gotta find a big fat guy to draft behind.
But you aint gonna find a big fat guy pushing 53 x 16. :)

Broctoon 08-19-16 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 18997325)
No no, not the rim logos, the TIRE label. There is a good reason. If you get a flat and can't see an obvious culprit on the outside of the tire, removing the tube and lining it up will tell you where to look at the tire for the problem. If the tire moves you've lost your reference position, unless you know where it was, which should be centered over the valve.

Oh, right! Total attention-to-detail fail here.

When looking for a puncture (at home, anyway), I usually mark the stem's position on the tire with a sharpie. Your way is even easier.


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 18997325)
But you aint gonna find a big fat guy pushing 53 x 16. :)

No, I meant on a Harley-Davidson.

SquidPuppet 08-20-16 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Broctoon (Post 18997341)
No, I meant on a Harley-Davidson.

:thumb:

Carcosa 08-22-16 10:26 AM

Moar pics of that CX bike.

And that causeway looks like a fun place for a paceline with a bunch of friends.

Broctoon 08-22-16 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Carcosa (Post 19002450)
Moar pics of that CX bike.

I just posted a few pics here:

http://www.bikeforums.net/singlespee...2016-a-22.html



Originally Posted by Carcosa (Post 19002450)
And that causeway looks like a fun place for a paceline with a bunch of friends.

It is indeed. Years ago, I was training with a team for a century race, and we sometimes went there for paceline work. It's ideal because you don't have to worry about traffic, road hazards, etc. You can focus on keeping a nice, tight group.

Potatofarmer 08-23-16 04:51 AM

Kind of reminds me of the atlantic road in Norway!


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