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kingston 09-03-16 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by stasher1 (Post 19030864)
I'm about as laid back as I can be.

Perhaps it's the medium, but that hasn't really come across so far.


Originally Posted by stasher1 (Post 19030864)
I just don't believe in sugar-coating anything.

What is it that you were not sugar coating exactly? All I took away was a rant about customer service that presumably had nothing to do with Wabi followed by a personal attack on someone who pointed out with an amusing gif your obvious lack of personal experience with the topic being discussed.

stasher1 09-03-16 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by kingston (Post 19030968)
What is it that you were not sugar coating exactly? All I took away was a rant about customer service that presumably had nothing to do with Wabi followed by a personal attack on someone who pointed out with an amusing gif your obvious lack of personal experience with the topic being discussed.


My "rant" about customer service was in response to these posts:



Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 19030118)
Why are people so impatient? Wabi is a small company and I'm sure you're not the only one sending them emails asking questions.


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 19030341)
Or you could just have some patience. You're not going to die if you wait a few more days to hear back from them.

The weekend is here and Monday is a holiday.

Apparently scrodzilla thinks it's acceptable to make a customer wait 6 days for a response to an email. Maybe that's acceptable in his world, but that kind of response time doesn't fly in any other industry.

I understand. You're going to back him up because he's a regular and I'm an outsider...but an arrogant prick is an arrogant prick.

TMonk 09-03-16 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by stasher1 (Post 19031015)
but that kind of response time doesn't fly in any other industry.

O rly?

stasher1 09-03-16 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TMonk (Post 19031020)
O rly?



Name a customer-driven industry where a 6 day email response time is acceptable.

kingston 09-03-16 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by stasher1 (Post 19031015)
My "rant" about customer service was in response to these posts:

Apparently scrodzilla thinks it's acceptable to make a customer wait 6 days for a response to an email. Maybe that's acceptable in his world, but that kind of response time doesn't fly in any other industry.

I understand. You're going to back him up because he's a regular and I'm an outsider...but an arrogant prick is an arrogant prick.

I still don't understand what you were not sugar coating. Had you even heard of wabi before you contributed to this thread? Bought anything from them?

stasher1 09-03-16 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by kingston (Post 19031027)
I still don't understand what you were not sugar coating. Had you even heard of wabi before you contributed to this thread? Bought anything from them?



Originally Posted by stasher1 (Post 19030596)
Ah, the arrogance of someone who lives, works, and thinks solely within his own little world.

Carry on then, my friend.

Best of luck to you and your little business.


Yes, I had heard of Wabi and no, I haven't bought anything from them.

If they can't answer an email within a reasonable time frame, I'd scratch them off my list and move on to another supplier. I buy/sell commercial fitness equipment as a hobby and side-business, and wouldn't tolerate that from any supplier. Why should I, or anyone else, put up with that from a bicycle company?

kingston 09-03-16 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by stasher1 (Post 19031045)
Yes, I had heard of Wabi and no, I haven't bought anything from them.

If they can't answer an email within a reasonable time frame, I'd scratch them off my list and move on to another supplier. I buy/sell commercial fitness equipment as a hobby and side-business, and wouldn't tolerate that from any supplier. Why should I, or anyone else, put up with that from a bicycle company?

I have bought a lot of stuff from wabi and have exchanged dozens of emails. Their customer service is excellent. The OP confirmed this with his own experience. It's really not helpful to badmouth retailers that you have no personal experience with and then attack everyone on the thread when they point it out.

SquidPuppet 09-04-16 08:54 AM

My comment below is just a general comment about all vendors, not Wabi.

If I emailed a vendor with, "Inane and tedious question about trivial subject.", and it took them a while to respond, I'd be OK with that. They have bigger fish to fry.

If I emailed a vendor with, "I want to buy some of your products, please contact me.", and It took them a few days to respond, that would send me shopping elsewhere.

It's been my experience that vendors that are slow on the draw to a potential sale have been a nightmare to deal with if you have an issue after the sale.

TMonk 09-04-16 09:09 AM

I agree with that [MENTION=362748]SquidPuppet[/MENTION]. I run an internal Analytical Services business at the company I work for (I'm a chemist on the characterization/QC side), and get some really stupid questions that aren't directly linked to a sale all the time. I'm at a small company so my plate is always overflowing with work as well.

I've developed some canned responses and references, contacts and collaborators within the industry that I can quickly refer people to, so fortunately I can still deal with them in a polite and timely manner. "I wish you luck in your analysis" is something I end a lot of dumb inquiries with :).

Still, if you can be polite and take a little time to educate a customer, it can result in some references, trust in your expertise or even direct sales down the road.

Scrodzilla 09-04-16 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by stasher1 (Post 19031015)
Apparently scrodzilla thinks it's acceptable to make a customer wait 6 days for a response to an email. Maybe that's acceptable in his world, but that kind of response time doesn't fly in any other industry.

Where did I say we make our customers wait 6 days for a response? I simply offered you a job.

stasher1 09-04-16 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 19031825)
Where did I say we make our customers wait 6 days for a response? I simply offered you a job.


:lol:


You're 100% correct, you never said you make your customers wait 6 days for a response. You did, however, tell the OP that he's "not going to die if you wait a few more days to hear back from them", after he had already waited three days for a response. This just something you and I are not going to see eye-to-eye on. I am, admittedly, not a very patient person but I don't appreciate being put "on the back burner" because someone doesn't feel like my question is worthy of a timely response. For me, customer service is far more important than price.

As I'm quite sure you know, there are no 8 hour days when you own/run a small business. Sometimes you have to answer seemingly inane questions well after "normal" business hours if you're too busy to get it done during the day. I don't own the company I work for (hell, I'm not even mgt), but I still have emails I have to respond to on my own time. This is just something we have to do on occasion to keep products moving out the door and money flowing in the right direction. ;)

Scrodzilla 09-04-16 11:05 AM

I still think you're an ass.

stasher1 09-04-16 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 19031892)
I still think you're an ass.



Likewise. :D


At least we're seeing eye-to-eye on something. I guess that's progress, of sorts.

Orchestra 09-06-16 08:53 PM

Just a follow up to this thread. Wabi contacted me on Labor day, we figured out what I wanted and placed an order earlier this morning!

Scrodzilla 09-06-16 09:07 PM

Wait...so being patient actually worked out? Weird...

kingston 09-07-16 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Orchestra (Post 19037785)
Just a follow up to this thread. Wabi contacted me on Labor day, we figured out what I wanted and placed an order earlier this morning!

Did they build you a wheelset with black hubs?

Orchestra 09-07-16 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by kingston (Post 19038314)
Did they build you a wheelset with black hubs?

No, we went a different route with their wheel set and black spokes.


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