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Handsome Fredward - talk me out of this frame

Old 01-24-17, 10:31 AM
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Handsome Fredward - talk me out of this frame


https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-frameset

Ok, so on paper it's sort of a generic double-butted cro-mo 120mm spaced Nature Boy and the fork from a Cross-Check.

The things I really like about this frame (other than the price) are:
steel
120mm spacing so I can swap wheels between it and my Steamroller
awesome green color
little-to-no branding
brazed-on rear cable stop, which I prefer to bolt-on hangers
geometry should play well with any 'standard' carbon canti fork if I decide to go there

Cons:
3-speed and coaster braze-ons (coaster tab would get removed, for sure)
not light (but neither is my Surly)

Anyone here ever ride one?
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Old 01-24-17, 11:09 AM
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It has a pump nipple on the head tube too.

Buy TWO!!!
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Old 01-24-17, 11:20 AM
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I'll talk you out of the green one.

Get it in pink.
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Old 01-24-17, 11:51 AM
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cantilever brakes suck. . .so, build it with linear pull brakes instead.
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Old 01-24-17, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JeremyLC View Post
cantilever brakes suck. . .so, build it with linear pull brakes instead.
depends on which canti and/or the setup
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Old 01-24-17, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnytheboy View Post
depends on which canti and/or the setup
Fine, then. When I finally replace all the parts* on my Surly (later this week, I hope), I'll bring it to you personally if it still squeals.


*) everything but the headset, fork, wheels, saddle, and seat collar.
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Old 01-24-17, 12:15 PM
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wheres the geometry
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Old 01-24-17, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Wspsux View Post
wheres the geometry
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/09...51832733047710

EDIT: Geo-wise, it's very close to a Nature Boy it seems, which is cool because those are basically the two frames I'm debating between right now. The finish on the NB is a little nicer but damn if I don't love the green on the Fredward. My hang-up is that it might ride like a turd for reasons the specs can't explain whereas a NB is designed for SSCX.

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Old 01-24-17, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Carcosa View Post
I'll talk you out of the green one.

Get it in pink.
If it was more of a hot pink I'd consider it.
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Old 01-24-17, 04:27 PM
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dont get it, you'll get aids and die
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Meh.
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Does anybody remember the guy here a few years back who had a Handsome Devil? He would go on & on about how fantastic his bike was...
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With all those braze-ons, it kind of looks like you could build a pretty cool fixed gear touring bike with wide tires+fenders. Although, you'd be up against the Soma Wolverine, which allows a little more versatility with its rear dropouts.
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Old 01-25-17, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmSam View Post
Does anybody remember the guy here a few years back who had a Handsome Devil? He would go on & on about how fantastic his bike was...
Yeah, I found that in my searches. I haven't really seen any bad comments.
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Do they mention where they got the name "Fredward"? I have a theory...

(this whole movie is awesome)


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Old 01-25-17, 03:35 PM
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the coaster tab and cable guides (for an internal hub) kinda ruin it for me.
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Old 01-26-17, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnytheboy View Post
the coaster tab and cable guides (for an internal hub) kinda ruin it for me.

I hear ya.
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Old 01-28-17, 12:14 PM
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I dig the bike minus the tabs and guides for an IGH. I like cantis and the green is a decent utilitarian type color.

However if I were going SS/FG Cross type bike I would stick with what I got or go with a Nature Boy which is much cleaner and they come coated on the inside which makes for quicker building (no framesaver required).

If I wanted a IGH set up I would go with something with a 135mm spacing, better options on that front.
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Originally Posted by JeremyLC View Post
cantilever brakes suck. . .so, build it with linear pull brakes instead.
Only if you donít know how to adjust them.
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looks like a toad. think it's all the tabs and braze-ons, they really went wild.
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Originally Posted by cs1 View Post

Only if you donít know how to adjust them.

You really dug up a two year old thread to bag on me for having noisy cantis? Really?
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Originally Posted by JeremyLC View Post
You really dug up a two year old thread to bag on me for having noisy cantis? Really?
Rest assured I didnít dig it up to bag on you. I was doing a search on the frame to see about buying one. I just happened to see the canti remark. Sorry if you were offended.
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Old 03-07-19, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cs1 View Post

Rest assured I didnít dig it up to bag on you. I was doing a search on the frame to see about buying one. I just happened to see the canti remark. Sorry if you were offended.
If you look at the personalizations under "Thread Starter" 50voltphantom's, name - you can see that he did go ahead and buy the frameset in question. So if you are serious about it - you might search deeper here to see if he ever posted what he thinks of it, or...and I'm just brainstorming here...ask him
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Hey all. Most here know I bought it. I've raced it two seasons so far, rides great. No regrets as I wanted a SSCX capable frame that I could swap wheels between it and my Steamroller. The new ones are now ED coated internally (like Surly, All City.) The stock fork now has a 55mm rake instead of 45. If you're careful you can easily cut the majority of coaster tab off with a hacksaw and you forget it was ever there. There's a handful of them on sale on eBay for under $400 right now.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Handsome-Fr...E_OchG92Ets9TA

https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/hands...ard-sscx-34312

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