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Old 12-24-18, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by j_e_r_e_m_y View Post
Tried googling to answer this but am failing to find an answer. Does anyone know if there's a way to use a retro BMX style 3 piece crank like the GT Power Series (link below) or Redline Flite cranks on a bike with a standard 68mm bb shell? Just intrigued by the idea of adding a little old school BMX flair to my bike.

https://www.ridebmx.com/product/part...series-cranks/
I believe this would work. However, not for the newer GT cranks as the spindle grew to 22mm. You need a crank spindle of 19mm for these to work


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Upping this tread with a question: how much can my frame flex? Bike is a Langster street, size 58, with Sram Omniuns. Sorry for the bad picture, but it shows that I can put a pencil between the frame and chainring, and it's almost one finger of clearance in the part where the chainring would contact the frame.

BUT, cleaning the bike today, I found some weird scratches on the paint in that part (right now covered by tape). I can post pictures of the scratches lately, but it REALLY looks like the chainring touched the frame. The scratches were a bit deep. Can the frame flex that much, moving more than 1cm in the chainring area? Right now I weight 90kg, and use the bike on some good climbs. I used some black tape to cover the scratches, just as a guide. I will try to go to the hard climb tomorrow, and see if it touchs the frame. If so, I'm actually scared to use the bike
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Upping this tread with a question: how much can my frame flex? Bike is a Langster street, size 58, with Sram Omniuns. Sorry for the bad picture, but it shows that I can put a pencil between the frame and chainring, and it's almost one finger of clearance in the part where the chainring would contact the frame.

BUT, cleaning the bike today, I found some weird scratches on the paint in that part (right now covered by tape). I can post pictures of the scratches lately, but it REALLY looks like the chainring touched the frame. The scratches were a bit deep. Can the frame flex that much, moving more than 1cm in the chainring area? Right now I weight 90kg, and use the bike on some good climbs. I used some black tape to cover the scratches, just as a guide. I will try to go to the hard climb tomorrow, and see if it touchs the frame. If so, I'm actually scared to use the bike
thats crazy! I guess anything is possible. Some quick and obvious questions. Does the chain ring seem to be spinning true? Does ur bottom bracket appear to be straight? Everything tight, no slop?
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yeah, everything works fine. Today I rode 94km with the bike, and nothing out of ordinary.

BUT, then it hits me. If the frame flexed that much, it would be impossible to ride, since I use a rear brake as well. It would touch the rim far before the chainring hit the stays (and THAT I know how it feels).

So, maybe it was just some gravel/whatever which got stuck in that exactly place.
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yeah, everything works fine. Today I rode 94km with the bike, and nothing out of ordinary.

BUT, then it hits me. If the frame flexed that much, it would be impossible to ride, since I use a rear brake as well. It would touch the rim far before the chainring hit the stays (and THAT I know how it feels).

So, maybe it was just some gravel/whatever which got stuck in that exactly place.
Possibly. I would think you would feel something funky going on if it were flexing that much. And you would probably hear and feel something if it was mashing into your chainstay. Odd, I’d just keep a close eye on it for the time being
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An aluminum frame should never flex that much. It's possible you picked up something that got stick in your chainring, and when it scratched the chainstay it knocked itself off.
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1 - Rode with double brakes and without straps. Worked fine, but will I die soon? In one of the descents, my feet slided on the pedal, but not enough to lose contact..
Maybe, everyone says that you will. I ride mine that way though without issue, just use my brakes when my cadence gets to about 130.
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Maybe, everyone says that you will. I ride mine that way though without issue, just use my brakes when my cadence gets to about 130.
Never have I ever heard that. Foot retention seems like a good idea brakes or not
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Never have I ever heard that. Foot retention seems like a good idea brakes or not
Never heard that you'll suffer a calamity and die if you don't use foot retention, or never heard of someone riding FG without foot retention?
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Never heard that you'll suffer a calamity and die if you don't use foot retention, or never heard of someone riding FG without foot retention?
It's a good idea for fixed gear drivetrains where there's no freewheel letting you coast.
Constantly driven by the rear wheel's inertia via the drivetrain, a fixed gear's pedals won't stop rotating until the wheels do.
It's not fun to have the skin on the back of your legs skinned by your pedals when your feet slip in a higher cadence.
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well, since I'm the original poster of the actual responses, I might say that I still use double brakes, but now use SPDs Less pratical, but easir on the mind, and specially helpful on the climbs
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It doesn't get much interest nowadays, but wayyy back when, there were more than a few discussions here about very light wheelsets, and what parts to use to build your own...

Some of the hubs that got a lot of love for this purpose were low spoke hole, low flange Novatec & Gran Compe SF. Maybe it's the times, but I've been checking around the interwebz lately and I couldn't find low hole versions of these hubs. Retrogression carried the Gran Compes but was out of stock the latter part of last year, and who knows what they will be doing after their move. I've also asked several LBS around me about ordering them and been told that none of their distributors have them. I've run into a brick wall.

So my question for the group is - does anybody know anywhere that one can currently buy low spoke count, low flange Novatec or Gran Compe SF hubs in Silver?

TIA...
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^^ Maybe try Alex's Cycles.
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Are carbon bars ok on a fixie? Was thinking about putting some Easton carbon bars on my kilo TT mostly for comfort (got 37cm wide bars now, will go to a 40cm) but also for vibration damping. Are they safe to use since there is more stress on a fixie? If I am climbing a really steep hill, my tendency is to pull up on the bars (which is probably bad form , but....) will I break the bars doing that? Not totally comfortable with carbon bars yet (never had them on any bike!), but maybe someone can convince me lol.

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Are carbon bars ok on a fixie? Was thinking about putting some Easton carbon bars on my kilo TT mostly for comfort (got 37cm wide bars now, will go to a 40cm) but also for vibration damping. Are they safe to use since there is more stress on a fixie? If I am climbing a really steep hill, my tendency is to pull up on the bars (which is probably bad form , but....) will I break the bars doing that? Not totally comfortable with carbon bars yet (never had them on any bike!), but maybe someone can convince me lol.

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If they need to be fixied, then probably not but a good well known carbon bar from a company with a solid reputation with carbon fiber is fine on really any bike. However I will note that if you are worried about carbon bars buying them and using them probably won't help much. Anything that needs to be fixied should not be ridden whether a frame or fork or stem or bars or seatpost whatever if it is broken don't ride it at all. If you want good vibration dampening go for a eeSilk seatpost and some thicker more cushioned tape and maybe also look at a ShockStop stem.

If you are worried about stress maybe go see a therapist. If you think you are putting to much stress on a bike like a fixed gear, unless your name is Robert Förstemann or Sir Chris Hoy or someone like that you probably don't have to worry much. Certainly cheap components don't hold up well especially to heavy use and abuse but if you get decent stuff and treat it will you will be fine.
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If they need to be fixied, then probably not but a good well known carbon bar from a company with a solid reputation with carbon fiber is fine on really any bike. However I will note that if you are worried about carbon bars buying them and using them probably won't help much. Anything that needs to be fixied should not be ridden whether a frame or fork or stem or bars or seatpost whatever if it is broken don't ride it at all. If you want good vibration dampening go for a eeSilk seatpost and some thicker more cushioned tape and maybe also look at a ShockStop stem.

If you are worried about stress maybe go see a therapist. If you think you are putting to much stress on a bike like a fixed gear, unless your name is Robert Förstemann or Sir Chris Hoy or someone like that you probably don't have to worry much. Certainly cheap components don't hold up well especially to heavy use and abuse but if you get decent stuff and treat it will you will be fine.
Whaaaat? Assuming you are joking here :-) Nothing is broken on the bike, just looking at some wider bars that happen to be carbon.

I'll have to look around at different bar tape, maybe even double layer.

For seat posts, haven't found a lot of nice options in 26.8mm. There is a Nitto Crystal Fellow and a Thomson elite. That's about it unless you count cheap ones like Uno :-p

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Carbon bars will be fine. You aren't going to have a problem with the Easton bars. They won't break or twist.

It isn't going to be a night and day difference in terms of vibration dampening. Maybe a little but you are not going to ride it and say, "Wow! Amazing! I can't believe its not butter!!!"

The only problem is going to be leaving them out in the sunlight. No, I just made that up. Only kidding. They will be fine.


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If you are worried about stress maybe go see a therapist.
This is pretty funny.

And Dave is like, "Whaaaa?"




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Originally Posted by bonsai171 View Post
Are carbon bars ok on a fixie? Was thinking about putting some Easton carbon bars on my kilo TT mostly for comfort (got 37cm wide bars now, will go to a 40cm) but also for vibration damping. Are they safe to use since there is more stress on a fixie? If I am climbing a really steep hill, my tendency is to pull up on the bars (which is probably bad form , but....) will I break the bars doing that? Not totally comfortable with carbon bars yet (never had them on any bike!), but maybe someone can convince me lol.

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As previously mentioned, perfectly fine. Just be sure to pay attention to the torque spec on the bar itself and not the stem.
If it is tightened to spec and slips, use carbon assembly paste for extra grit-grippage.
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I used to be scared of carbon bars and parts but I'm not any more. Big thing as previously mentioned is using a torque wrench.
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Nothing to be scared of.

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"Nothing to be scared of?"

Then why is he wearing a diaper?
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"Nothing to be scared of?"

Then why is he wearing a diaper?
lol. Will Tektro RL340 brake levers work with Carbon handlebars?

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Whaaaat? Assuming you are joking here :-) Nothing is broken on the bike, just looking at some wider bars that happen to be carbon.

I'll have to look around at different bar tape, maybe even double layer.

For seat posts, haven't found a lot of nice options in 26.8mm. There is a Nitto Crystal Fellow and a Thomson elite. That's about it unless you count cheap ones like Uno :-p

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Joking? Me? No? I am serious 100% of the time all the time without fail. You said things needed to be fixied so I would be careful and get them fixed before you run into trouble.

Thomson Elite or Nitto Crystal fellow are both fine seatposts I have used the Thomson ones for many years and have had a Nitto in 26.8 for a while and both have been excellent quality wise. 26.8 sadly is not really a common size and is designed to piss you off. You can sometimes find old Dura Ace or Ultegra/600 seatposts in that size but not often and not for cheap. Basically a good bike would would use a 1 1/8" threadless headset and fork and a 27.2 seatpost and everyone is happy because parts are easily available but to save money Bikes Direct buys the cheap stuff because most folks buying that stuff don't know or care what any of that means so it leads to issues like this for people who do know what it means.


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This is pretty funny.

And Dave is like, "Whaaaa?"




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"Nothing to be scared of?"

Then why is he wearing a diaper?
LOL
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Joking? Me? No? I am serious 100% of the time all the time without fail. You said things needed to be fixied so I would be careful and get them fixed before you run into trouble.

Thomson Elite or Nitto Crystal fellow are both fine seatposts I have used the Thomson ones for many years and have had a Nitto in 26.8 for a while and both have been excellent quality wise. 26.8 sadly is not really a common size and is designed to piss you off. You can sometimes find old Dura Ace or Ultegra/600 seatposts in that size but not often and not for cheap. Basically a good bike would would use a 1 1/8" threadless headset and fork and a 27.2 seatpost and everyone is happy because parts are easily available but to save money Bikes Direct buys the cheap stuff because most folks buying that stuff don't know or care what any of that means so it leads to issues like this for people who do know what it means.




Yeah I like it when people miss the joke sometimes. Gotta have some fun.
It is frustrating at times on the forums when you post a legitimate question, and get a response like your first post. Feels like the question wasn't really answered.

In addition, no one has said whether my brake levers will work or not. Back at ground zero.

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