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stupid question. flying with my fixie.

Old 06-22-05, 12:34 PM
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stupid question. flying with my fixie.

ok, so f*(x all the overcharges for checking bikes. I'm flying all over the place this summer, and I'm not paying $80 each way to bring Sue with me.

Sue is a 49cm steamroller. she's rather small.

Can anyone think of a reason why I wouldn't just buy a hardside suitcase, sized about 31"x22"x12", and shove her in there, piecemeal? I've calculated that, fork out, whe's about 19.1" tall and about 18" long. I plan on wrapping all parts in tshirts and such to avoid scratching...
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If you can do it, do it.

Also, I know that if you join the League of American Bicyclists, you can fly with your bike free if you book your flight with "adventure travel"

http://www.bikeleague.org/flyfree.htm

However, who knows. The price they might get you on a flight might be enough more than what you can find cheap on the internet ect. that it is not worth it.
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No reason why it wouldnt work, as long as she fits.

S-and-S couplers are probably more than you want to get into just for a summer's worth of travel, but they are exactly what you need if you want to do this on a regular basis.

Does the airline charge extra if you use one of those hard-shell bike cases? you can usually find one for ~$100 on craigslist.

hope you can figure out something. Travelling with your fixie would be fun.
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Yeah, the airline charges regardless of what your bike is packed in. It is due to size, not packaging. I have done this a fair amount in the past. Also, remember that most international flights allow bikes on for free.
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Originally Posted by delay
Yeah, the airline charges regardless of what your bike is packed in. It is due to size, not packaging. I have done this a fair amount in the past. Also, remember that most international flights allow bikes on for free.
I think what I"m saying is that I believe I have finally found the one advantage to being short-- having a bike small enough that i can pack it in a regular suitcase, call it "metal sculpture" and thus not pay for it being oversize or a bicycle.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any caveats on this strategy...
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seems like a good idea as long as it fits. They don't care that it's a bike as long as it's not oversized. just make sure you pack the fork flat so when they stack the luggage it won't get bent. The same goes for your seatstays and such. Perhaps picking up one of those spacer to keep the rear from being bent. Other than that, i think you are good to go.
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I think the S and S couplers rock the house. But they are expensive, and you need a framebuilder to install them.

If you can fit it in a 'standard' size suitcase, I bet you could just check it and go. If it isn't oversize in any way, why would they care? Then again, airlines care about a lot of weird stuff...

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I have zero personal experience in this matter, but from the reading I have done recently on the subject, if you can fit it in a "regular" suitcase, they won't charge extra. Just don't mention it's a bike. People load the airlines with ridiculously huge 50+lb suitcases and duffels--a 20lb fixie in a big hardshell will probably seem like a light load, and go relatively unnoticed. But "metal sculpture" is as good a fallback as any.

Just make sure it's a "regular" suitcase (sounds like you will) and don't cover it with Surly/Cars-R-Coffins/Tour de france stickers, har har.

(the reading I have done is on the web, regarding travelling with S+S-coupled bikes, and with bike friday folding bikes in their custom cases. The consensus is, if they can't tell it's a bike, they won't charge you extra for it.)

Surely there are other advantages to being short?
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Originally Posted by weed eater
Surely there are other advantages to being short?
fewer complaints about airline legroom?
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Originally Posted by chimblysweep
fewer complaints about airline legroom?
there, you see, I knew there was something.
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There goes showing off his new Thylacine with S & S couplings - I knew he'd show up in this thread.

I'll be seeing that bike in person soon, right? Though now we'll be the Dirty Chicago Geared Crew. DCGC.
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I was looking through the Frontier Airlines detailed regulations (damn, there are a LOT of regulations), and found some interesting things. For one thing, you can't transport animal antlers, in either checked OR carryon baggage! Nor can you carry human remains to a foreign country.

But for bikes, there is a key section (emphasis mine):

a) Bicycles
1. Frontier will accept non-motorized touring or racing bicycles with single seats. Bicycles must have the handlebars fixed sideways and the pedals removed, or be placed in a cardboard container, or the pedals and the handlebars must be encased in plastic foam or similar material. The charge is $50.00 per bicycle.
EXCEPTION 1: Childrenís bicycles not exceeding 62 inches in overall dimensions and weighing 50 pounds or less, may be included as part of a passengerís free baggage allowance (see Rule 220) provided they are packaged in a cardboard box.
If you can fit your bike into a container that does not exceed a total of 62 inches (length+height+width), and it all weighs less than 50 pounds (it better, as a fixie), then you could probably pre-pack it, in either cardboard or a suitcase, say its a kids bike (it almost is, since you are so short. ) and have it as one of your free bags.

Of course, you'll need to see if other airlines have a similar rule, I just happen to fly Frontier a lot, so I checked there first.

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Jeff - you'll be the only one in that crew since no one else has an S & S coupled bike amongst us.
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Originally Posted by stickerguy
You will see pictures of my new bike many threads in many sections of
this forum. If you have a problem with it I'll separate my bike in 2 pieces
and spin them like nunchucks. This is my only warning.
Damn, jeff. That sounds almost as punishing as my, "leap off the back of the bike, swing the front wheel into the air, and then run forward as the crank and chainring whirls like a mad sawblade of death toward your crotch as the front wheel swings wildly side-to-side distracting you from the pain to come when the eggbeaters rip through your flimsy jeans" maneuver.

Hopefully we never meet in a dark alley, the sparks would fly for sure.

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Originally Posted by stickerguy
62" is the airline industry standard for linear inches on checked baggage
you've got 65". so if no one says anything you might just squeek by.
I just wanted to reiterate this. If you can get in under the 62" (linear) threshold, you can take it for free. Delta, in fact, makes this explicit.
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hmm. ok, i'll take a test run at fitting it all in a suitcase that's 30" x 21" x 13".

Unfortunately, it's 64" linear. Let's hope they don't notice?
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Damn, all this talk makes me want couplers on my bike... Anyone know the cost for retrofitting these couplers onto an existing steel bike? I think I've heard 450$ before, but I'm not sure... You'd have to fly 9 times to make that pay for itself though..

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ride a smaller bike
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Originally Posted by phidauex
Damn, all this talk makes me want couplers on my bike... Anyone know the cost for retrofitting these couplers onto an existing steel bike? I think I've heard 450$ before, but I'm not sure... You'd have to fly 9 times to make that pay for itself though..

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$400 was what I was quoted for getting them installed into my Cross-Check frame. I decided not to bother with it yet... maybe later on a nicer frame.

The Sands Machine website has a list of framebuilders who offer retrofit services, and what their lead time is: http://www.sandsmachine.com/fbplist.htm
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Originally Posted by chimblysweep
hmm. ok, i'll take a test run at fitting it all in a suitcase that's 30" x 21" x 13".

Unfortunately, it's 64" linear. Let's hope they don't notice?
Let us know how it works out! I'd be willing to risk a 64" linear... But carry a few extra bucks on hand in case someone gives you trouble and charges you the 50$ oversize fee.

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Yeah, but stickerguy, you can fly your bike for free internationally...
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