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Old 06-23-05, 09:51 PM
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diy stayer?

anyone ever built their own stayer inspired fixed gear, with out a proper frame? I've got a barn (literaly) full of bike parts, and I'm begining to to feel a bit silly. any issues with fork rake? this may end up being the dumbest bike I ever build.
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Old 06-24-05, 05:49 AM
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I spun the fork on my mountain bike for a while but the trail was pretty killer.

But hey, build it up, give it a shot. What have you got to lose?
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What's a stayer?
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A stayer is a special type of track bike for motorpacing. It drafts at a very close distance a special type of motorcycle called a Derny--so close, in fact, that the Derny has a roller bar behind the rear wheel so that if the cyclist hits it, it just spins in the direction that their wheels are already going rather than the counter rotation of the Derny wheels that would throw them off.

In order to shorten the bike as much as possible and keep it within the Derny's slipstream, the fork has negative rake that brings the wheel very close to the downtube of the bike.
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Originally Posted by Walkercycles
ALso, the rake is reversed as to not handle to fast during the extremely high speed motorpacing sessions.
Last thing you need is the bike wobbling out of control.
something like this page....
http://www.londoncyclesport.com/bikes/stayers.html

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That's happening with those rims/tires?
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they're made out of fimo.
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Originally Posted by jayrooney
That's happening with those rims/tires?
from the site "Bandaged wheels
The other thing to note about the bike is the tape on the side of the tyres & probably the messy looking glue sticking them on, & both are connected to each other. Shellac is used to glue the tyres on rather than normal tub glue - you have to make it up from crystals if I remember rightly, & it takes ages to do as you build up layers of it on the rim.

Tape is 'bandaged' around the rim & onto the tyres to ensure that in the event of a puncture, the tyre will stay on the rim. Tubular tyres are better than clinchers in this respect anyway, but at the speeds you hit behind the big motors, a puncture would result in a really serious accident without the bandage enabling you to keep riding on the tyre without it coming off, which at that speed & angle, it almost certainly would. To give an idea of the speeds & forces on the bike, normally trackies have problems with wheels slipping down the track if it's damp or riding to slowly - I had a couple of a heart stopping moments when I felt my back wheel skip up the banking very slightly!"
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Pushing a 120" gear! That's pretty crazy- i wonder if they can get a tow up to speed from the moto.

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Eddy killed one of his pacers while doing a motorpacing event, once, in fact. He also suffered a serious back injury that impaired his performance in his then-young career. Who knows what he might have otherwise achieved, eh?
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update: I found a fork this weekend, steel with a nice crome crown cover, I think the bike I took it off was schwinn stingray/orange crate type bmx from the late 60's.

next step is finding a frame...
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