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Old 06-23-05, 10:53 PM
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Miyata track frameset - tubing?

Once again, I find myself calling on your collective expertise. I just picked up a sweet Miyata track frameset. It's label simply reads "Miyata CrMo." Can anyone provide me the specific "type - brand" of tubing used on the Miyata track framesets?

I haven't taken it for a spin yet and was wondering what to expect. So, any information would be greatly appreciated.

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expect it to ride like steel.. so it will be real.. or wait, maybe like a school girl. sorry i'm done, too much liquor tonight.
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I hear tell that they made their own tubing, and that its pretty dang nice tubing, too, especially the triple butted stuff. Any idea of the year or model of frame?

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Miyata had custom tubing drawn for their higher end road frames. "Spline triple Butted" stuff. By Tange I think. apparently excellent stuff. Top of the line in its day.
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Originally Posted by phidauex
I hear tell that they made their own tubing, and that its pretty dang nice tubing, too, especially the triple butted stuff. Any idea of the year or model of frame?

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Originally Posted by chzman
expect it to ride like steel.. so it will be real.. or wait, maybe like a school girl. sorry i'm done, too much liquor tonight.
School girl works for me!
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Tip: Never tell a girl she rides like a triple butted steel bicycle. It doesn't have the effect you'd hope for...
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Originally Posted by baxtefer
Miyata had custom tubing drawn for their higher end road frames. "Spline triple Butted" stuff. By Tange I think. apparently excellent stuff. Top of the line in its day.
Baxter, my old Park-Pre track pursuit is made from Tange 1 tubing. So, I hope your right, cuz I really like Tange tubing.

BTW----I think some Ritcheys and Bridgestones (XO1) were made from Tange, right? Good stuff that Tange. Is it still in use today?
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Originally Posted by phidauex
Tip: Never tell a girl she rides like a triple butted steel bicycle. It doesn't have the effect you'd hope for...
copy that good buddy
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I don't believe that it's still available, but yeah, it was good steel back in the day. A lot of Japanese bikes (Bridgestone included) used Tange. I suspect this was because a) being Japanese, it was easier to source, b) being Japanese it suffered a certain Japanese-is-cheap stigma so it was less expensive, c) at the time the Yen was a weaker currency and made for strong export-oriented business, and d) Japanese steel itself is less expensive.

I've got a Tange 2 frame and a Tange Infinity frame. I've never had the #2 stripped all the way down, but the Infinity is impressively light. There seems to be some confusion about whether Infinity was seamless or welded, but it feels pretty good in any event.
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my first 'real' roadbike was a performance brand 'strada', lugged, tange 2, suntour forged droupouts, made in japan in the 80's. it's an awsome ride.
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Originally Posted by Walkercycles
With all this talk about Tange tubing going on, i figured maybe its time for me to voice my $.02
Some Japanese companies had custom drawn tubesets made by Tange and Ishiwata ( now Kaisei ). Usually, the frame maker would put on the tubing manufacturers decal as a way to advertise the quality of the tubing. If the frame came with a tubing decal that was different from either one of those brand names, the chances are it was a custom drawn tube for the builder. There is the slight chance that the tubing was a much lower quality tubing and rather than have no decal at all, they put their own decal on the frame to have the frame have the notoriety of having a Cro-Moly double butted tubeset, which in the 80s was all the rage.

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