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Old 01-11-19, 01:26 PM
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Off brand carbon frameset

Has any of y'all had experience with ordering an off brand carbon track frame set online? I've been mulling around with the idea for some time now and could use some advise. I'd be using it as a daily commuter/periodic road race bike. I currently have a Sole' aluminum frame and want to shed the weight. Thanks folks!
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I would buy used branded carbon before considering chinarellos.
Too many misnomers not to mention a seller that's not overwhelmingly concerned with maintaining a brand or reputation.

Mileage definitely varies from person to person.
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The answer will never change, don't do it. Seriously cheap no name frames and parts from who knows where is never a good idea, ever. They are not secret third shift frames that are coming from the same warehouse as known tested products just without logos, they are things made in different factories with much lower quality standards (if any at all) that do little to no testing of the frames or parts.

Yes this stuff is cheap in every single sense of the word which is a bad thing. If you want a lighter bike get something of good quality from a reputable manufacturer (which will require you to actually spend money) and get some good quality lightweight wheels. However if you are commuting you want something durable that is also of high quality as well but you can have a little bit of both if you pick the right parts and don't abuse your bike.

If you avoid the cheap online brands and the no name stuff from overseas it isn't hard to lighten up.
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Over the past ~10 years (or more) there have been literally thousands of online discussions and hundreds of thousands of posts about no-name chinese frames from people who have bought them and built bikes out of them. Give the huge quantity of them being sold on Ebay, there must be a huge number of them out there. Although I haven't done an exhaustive survey, I have read a lot of these threads and I don't recall having ever read anything negative...no chinese carbon explosions and if there were a significant quantity of failures, these would have appeared by now and the photos would have been reposted ad nauseam. Surely some of these frames are flawed, but that is also true of the name brands who sell plenty of faulty products. I do not believe there are any data indicating name brand frames are less likely to be faulty than unbranded frames. By this point there is enough evidence to suggest the odds of you getting a safe frame vastly outweigh the chances of you getting one thats going to malfunction even if the frame is unbranded and bought direct from china. That does not mean this it is going to have the lightest, most optimally engineered design out there, but probably good enough that you will never know the difference.

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Over the past ~10 years (or more) there have been literally thousands of online discussions and hundreds of thousands of posts about no-name chinese frames from people who have bought them and built bikes out of them. Give the huge quantity of them being sold on Ebay, there must be a huge number of them out there. Although I haven't done an exhaustive survey, I have read a lot of these threads and I don't recall having ever read anything negative...no chinese carbon explosions and if there were a significant quantity of failures, these would have appeared by now and the photos would have been reposted ad nauseam. Surely some of these frames are flawed, but that is also true of the name brands who sell plenty of faulty products. I do not believe there are any data indicating name brand frames are less likely to be faulty than unbranded frames. By this point there is enough evidence to suggest the odds of you getting a safe frame vastly outweigh the chances of you getting one thats going to malfunction even if the frame is unbranded and bought direct from china. That does not mean this it is going to have the lightest, most optimally engineered design out there, but probably good enough that you will never know the difference.
That’s all fine and dandy, but I think most everyone here is going to disagree. Maybe the OP should post what he’s actually looking at for some more constructive criticism. However, I wouldn’t really want to ride a carbon frame as a commuter, let alone a knock off one. Like I said, not sure what the OP is looking at, but these CF frames I see on eBay are quite cheap and ugly looking, appealing to a dying trend. Me personally, I enjoy riding steel frames. Also, I’ve never investigated, but I doubt your gonna shave much weight on a crap carbon frame vs a decent aluminum frame. IMO, throw the $ at better, lighter components.

I also would not hesitate to argue that you wouldn’t feel the difference in quality between a tried and trued brand vs one of said chinalleros.

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That’s all fine and dandy, but I think most everyone here is going to disagree. Maybe the OP should post what he’s actually looking at for some more constructive criticism. However, I wouldn’t really want to ride a carbon frame as a commuter, let alone a knock off one. Like I said, not sure what the OP is looking at, but these CF frames I see on eBay are quite cheap and ugly looking, appealing to a dying trend. Me personally, I enjoy riding steel frames. Also, I’ve never investigated, but I doubt your gonna shave much weight on a crap carbon frame vs a decent aluminum frame. IMO, throw the $ at better, lighter components.

I also would not hesitate to argue that you wouldn’t feel the difference in quality between a tried and trued brand vs one of said chinalleros.
I appreciate that feedback from everyone! Like I said in the OP, I'm just curious what the opinions would be. I ride 10 miles a day (5 to work than back) on a fixed gear as well as flipflop to a single speed while getting nice long training rides in. I'm 5'2" and frame size is hard to find unless I buy a cheap "fly by night" single speed or an out of my price range nice bike. (Not to mention I can't test ride anything lol) kind of like buying a car based on pictures. SUCKS!! This no name CF brand is just another idea.
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I appreciate that feedback from everyone! Like I said in the OP, I'm just curious what the opinions would be. I ride 10 miles a day (5 to work than back) on a fixed gear as well as flipflop to a single speed while getting nice long training rides in. I'm 5'2" and frame size is hard to find unless I buy a cheap "fly by night" single speed or an out of my price range nice bike. (Not to mention I can't test ride anything lol) kind of like buying a car based on pictures. SUCKS!! This no name CF brand is just another idea.
If a nicer bike is out of your price range, then carbon is way out of your price range and a trip to the hospital is also out of your price range. Save money and get yourself something nicer that is steel or aluminum if that is your thing and something that has a name brand. Specialized offers a lifetime warranty on the frame for original owners and they got me a new Langster after 11 years when my old one finally cracked in the BB. That ain't bad for the price.
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