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bike messengers steal bikes

Old 06-29-05, 01:25 AM
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OK my comment about "HS kids joking around" I was referrning to a post that looks like it was removed, someone found an internet group called "bike theives" and I went and read it, and it didn't sound to me like any of those kids had actually taken a bike in their lives, it sounds like some HS inside joke.

As for skanks at the party, yeah trashy ppl crash parties and take what they can, not just food and beer. too bad you didn't find them and have a good old beat-down to make the party more fun!
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Old 06-29-05, 01:41 AM
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gotcha.... again... tuesday is a drinking night for me I tend to get things crossed up.

I checked that myspace bike theives group aswell the kid with the nick $MoNeY$ with the mask and his parents camera impressed me the most
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Old 06-29-05, 05:46 AM
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hahaha nice, and honestly if you were a cabbie/driver would you rather face U-Lock justice? or mystery liquid #1?
Rent 2 Seconds sometime - you'll get the reference...
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Old 06-29-05, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by emayex
so i want to start riding to work...i asked the security guard today of there are a lot of thefts from the rack att he side door to the building. he said that bikes were stolen every once and a while....usually by bike messengers.

ive heard that before...

...are the guys here just the nice messengers? do bike messengers actually steal bikes?

whats up?

in the same convo th eguard asked what kind bike i had, i responded "track"...he got all excited.."me too...i just bought a hybrid"....confused i asked him to elaborate..."please elaborate

turns out he had a trek hybrid bike....he was so excited about it...hey whatever makes you happy....but it gave me a chuckle

How would you feel if instead of "bike messengers" he said "blacks" or "hispanics", etc... There's not really much difference, instead of discriminating based on race he's doing it based on occupation. But you probably wouldn't have taken him seriously, just write him off as an idiot racist. Please think about this before you condemn such a large, diverse group of people.

That said, some bike messengers do steal bikes/parts, so do some security guards, etc... There are bad apples everywhere, as many have pointed out in this thread. In nyc your bike is much more likely to be stolen by professional thieves, in a van with bolt cutters, jacks, etc... Not sure if this is the case in Philly. But I do know that Philly has a fairly small, close knit messenger community and bike thieves usually don't last long in a group like this.
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Old 06-29-05, 07:11 AM
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As Sam said, here in Toronto the community is fairly close knit and if there are messengers stealing bikes and parts you can bet they are NOT part of this community of good people. I will also say that you are more likely to get your stolen bike recovered by a messenger than stolen by one. Got your bike stolen? Want to get it back? Let the messenger's know about it....a description of the bike and most will be thrilled when they see the s#!tstain that is riding it and even more thrilled when they return it to the grateful owner. Speaking purely from experience.
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Old 06-29-05, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cavernmech
As Sam said, here in Toronto the community is fairly close knit and if there are messengers stealing bikes and parts you can bet they are NOT part of this community of good people. I will also say that you are more likely to get your stolen bike recovered by a messenger than stolen by one. Got your bike stolen? Want to get it back? Let the messenger's know about it....a description of the bike and most will be thrilled when they see the s#!tstain that is riding it and even more thrilled when they return it to the grateful owner. Speaking purely from experience.

Yep, prettymuch.A guy here got his ride taken by a homelss guy once, every messenger knew about it within 5 minutes(we all talk to each other via phone), less than 20 mins later he had his bike back and the homeless guy was a smudge on a wall in an alley on wall st.
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Old 06-29-05, 07:23 AM
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A few of the messengers I worked with in NYC would steal anything they could get their hands on. They liked to smoke crack in the park after work, too. And they would organize fake races to dupe new guys out of their paychecks. They were like the bullies of the schoolyard, and everyone knew (or learned) to steer clear of them.

I doubt they represent the majority of messengers, though. Most messengers I knew in NY and DC were hard-working, honest guys who were trying to make some money while they looked for a better job. They were much more likely to help you recover a stolen bike than to steal one.
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Old 06-29-05, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by luckycat
How would you feel if instead of "bike messengers" he said "blacks" or "hispanics", etc... There's not really much difference, instead of discriminating based on race he's doing it based on occupation.
A) There's a colossal difference between race and occupation.
B) He wasn't "discriminating" against anyone. He was asking a question.

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Old 06-29-05, 08:24 AM
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you're going to see shady characters in any group which is composed primarily of low-income individuals whos job is all about outsmarting the streets.

when you learn to secure your bike so it can't be stolen, you learn, in effect, how to steal bikes.

similarly, i've known a number of professional computer security and sysadmin types who'd break into other computers for kicks in their spare time.
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Old 06-29-05, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mcatano
A) There's a colossal difference between race and occupation.
B) He wasn't "discriminating" against anyone. He was asking a question.

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Absolutely. But he(the security guard) was making a sweeping statement about a large group of people based on the actions of a few. And granted, it's nowhere near as foul as a negative stereotype based on race, but it's still a negative stereotype about a group of people. One that I'm not ok with.


I was referring to the security guard, not emayex. And emayex, I wasn't accusing you of anything. I realize that you are just asking a question, I just don't want you to condemn the entire group based on some knucklehead security guard's statement.
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Old 06-29-05, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pedex
Yep, prettymuch.A guy here got his ride taken by a homelss guy once, every messenger knew about it within 5 minutes(we all talk to each other via phone), less than 20 mins later he had his bike back and the homeless guy was a smudge on a wall in an alley on wall st.
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Old 06-29-05, 08:57 AM
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There are like, maybe two messengers in the entire metro area, but they are blamed for everything gone bad with bikes.

On a local forum, some moron was blaming messengers for terrorizing pedestrians on some of the local trails.

It was an unintentionally hillarious read.
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Old 06-29-05, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by luckycat
I was referring to the security guard, not emayex.
Sorry, my mistake.

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Old 06-29-05, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mcatano
Sorry, my mistake.

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No problem, m.
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actually..when he said it...i got kinda defensive
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well, those folks you see riding a different (usually crappy) bike every week probably aren't paying for em.....
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Old 06-29-05, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by filtersweep
There are like, maybe two messengers in the entire metro area, but they are blamed for everything gone bad with bikes.
Um, what? I know we've got at least five, maybe even six... Though I've heard numbers have been going down.
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Old 06-29-05, 09:17 PM
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i used to work at a garden center, so let me tell you a secret about weapons against cabbies.... instead of your own urine in that water bottle... go to a garden store and buy Coyote or Fox urine (designed to ward off plant nibblers). if you sprayed that in a shopping mall the place would evacuate it is so powerful and potent...
they also sell a few other scents, powerful stuff, only use it on the worst cab drivers.
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Originally Posted by deadly downtube
i used to work at a garden center, so let me tell you a secret about weapons against cabbies.... instead of your own urine in that water bottle... go to a garden store and buy Coyote or Fox urine (designed to ward off plant nibblers). if you sprayed that in a shopping mall the place would evacuate it is so powerful and potent...
they also sell a few other scents, powerful stuff, only use it on the worst cab drivers.

but where is the satisfaction in some animals' urine?
when a cabbie taps me with his bumper or cuts me off potentially risking my life i want to know that i sprayed a nice 6 or 7 ozs of my own urine into or onto his cab.. see: ass pennies theory
the longer i ride in the city the more urine that cabbies that recieve a spray of my own personal urine..
in essence its a long term plan to curbing road rage
how can you possibly be mad at someone when you know at some point in time they were dosed with your pee...

I've been sticking $30 in pennies up my ass for the past 11 years! That's 3,000 pennies a day; 21,000 pennies a week; 1,092,000 pennies a year! To date that's 12,012,000 pennies, 8 times the population of Nebraska. Those pennies were in my ass! You think you're better than me? Oh, you're not better than me. You handle my ass pennies everyday. You pick up my ass pennies for good luck. You throw my ass pennies in fountains and make wishes on them. You give my ass pennies to your little daughter to buy gumballs with.
before i get flamed, i don't really believe any of the things i just said.
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Originally Posted by apologetic
the longer i ride in the city the more urine that cabbies that recieve a spray of my own personal urine..
in essence its a long term plan to curbing road rage
how can you possibly be mad at someone when you know at some point in time they were dosed with your pee...
But what happens when you get them dosed enough that they feel they belong to you? Isn't pissing used by animals to mark territory?

"I don't know officer, it was the weirdest thing. He didn't look like the guy always hitting me with the water bottle full of pee, but suddently I had to be right where he was..."

Mmmm... Jameson is starting to do the trick.
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Dude do you honestly think some piss is gonna stop a cabby? I'm pretty convinced that most of those dudes just go in the car anyways.
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Old 06-29-05, 10:20 PM
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oh man, ass pennies. so good
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i just bought a brand new alpha track bike yesterday, and i took a wrong turn down an alley last night and i guess i interrupted a secret alley cat or something. all these couriers with pink bikes and high knee socks surrounded me and started trackstanding, they appeared to have several aces of spades playing cards inserted in their spokes. one stole my Alpha after threatening to do me in with a cog. the moral of the story is dont buy a really nice bike because it is inevitable that it will be stolen by someone, im not saying that all couriers steal bikes, these must have just been "rogue" couriers, im sure if they hadnt stolen it someone else who isnt a courier would have recognized that it was expensive and finely crafted and stolen it anyway.

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I want a pursuit bike made out of copper from pennies.
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Of course if a messenger had his bike stolen in the middle of his run ,he might be tempted to'borrow' someone elses bike to finnish his day ?
Apparently in Holland its quite common for someone to 'borrow' your bike so you just 'borrow ' another , that why the city bikes are all old dungers!
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