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RIP Sram Omnium

Old 05-13-20, 06:43 PM
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RIP Sram Omnium

It's official: Sram has discontinued the Omnium crankset.

Try to hold back the tears, foos.
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Old 05-13-20, 07:10 PM
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Old 05-13-20, 07:24 PM
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Now they're even more expensive...
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While I never really loved the look of Omnomnomns and GXP bottom brackets are silly. It is a sad day for fixed gear and track cyclists. Fewer track stuff is a bad thing for those who want quality parts. Luckily Keirin ain't goin' nowhere so far so Sugino and Shimano will hopefully still keep rockin. I don't want to live in a world without 75s
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They probably don't have much of a place in the market anymore because they're not really used much at the elite track level and there are lots of cheaper competitive options out now for other users.
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They probably don't have much of a place in the market anymore because they're not really used much at the elite track level and there are lots of cheaper competitive options out now for other users.
>>> for instance what are some "cheaper" almost equal to the omnium that you would opt for ???
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>>> for instance what are some "cheaper" almost equal to the omnium that you would opt for ???
Miche Pistard 2.0 crankset. Don't know how equal it is but easy to find online in the 120-130 range, 2 piece crank and good looks in my opinion. Would like to get one to match the hubs and have a better crank length but already stretched the budget some this year.
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Old 05-14-20, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
They probably don't have much of a place in the market anymore because they're not really used much at the elite track level and there are lots of cheaper competitive options out now for other users.
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>>> for instance what are some "cheaper" almost equal to the omnium that you would opt for ???

Andel Deluxe all day long. The Alpina track crankset is also very good if you want to stick with GXP over a 24mm Hollowtech II system.

Affinity is also about to drop an affordable outboard bearing crankset that I am very impressed with.

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Old 05-17-20, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by doodoobrown View Post
Others have posted some, but it seems that the All-City crankset + SRAM S300s are slightly more affordable (if not comparable) available cranksets.
All-City 612 is not an outboard beaning crankset and Sram S300 is 130 bcd.
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Old 05-17-20, 02:15 PM
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All-City 612 is not an outboard beaning crankset and Sram S300 is 130 bcd.
Thanks for letting me know!
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Old 05-19-20, 06:37 PM
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bummer, happy i got a set, they are/were a decent crankset for the price.
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Meh. While it was a nice crank and more choices are better than fewer choices, there are plenty of other cranks that can do the job.
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Old 05-19-20, 09:57 PM
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they are/were a decent crankset for the price.
I definitely agree but the amount of frames Omniums don't get along with with is a huge hassle, and one that Sram never felt the need to address during the entire production run. Track cranksets should be compatible with track frames.
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Old 05-21-20, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
Andel Deluxe all day long. The Alpina track crankset is also very good if you want to stick with GXP over a 24mm Hollowtech II system.

Affinity is also about to drop an affordable outboard bearing crankset that I am very impressed with.
The Andel Deluxe in silver looks pretty sweet! Nice bling factor. Does it look as good in person as it does in the pictures? Now if I could get one in 170mm

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Yeah, the polished finish is really nice.

A certain Andel retailer in the US has a bunch of 170mm Andel Deluxe cranksets coming in both silver and black.
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I'm just pumped that my Omniums are officially a vintage component now.
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Yeah, the polished finish is really nice.

A certain Andel retailer in the US has a bunch of 170mm Andel Deluxe cranksets coming in both silver and black.
Very cool! Any idea when that might be? Are BBs easy to get? I'm debating over what crankset to buy. Was looking at the Campy Record Pistas too. Are they noticeably stiffer than the Andel Deluxe?

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I say good riddance. A stupid design in so many ways. Never liked SRAM components much. As to Andel, absolutely the best bang for the buck cranks on planet earth. I've got them on four bikes, and raced them no problems. 144 bcd baby !
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Very cool! Any idea when that might be? Are BBs easy to get? I'm debating over what crankset to buy. Was looking at the Campy Record Pistas too. Are they noticeably stiffer than the Andel Deluxe?

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Record Pista is light and pretty, but not very stiff at all compared to other square taper track cranksets in its class like DA 7710 and Sugino 75.
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I say good riddance. A stupid design in so many ways. Never liked SRAM components much. As to Andel, absolutely the best bang for the buck cranks on planet earth. I've got them on four bikes, and raced them no problems. 144 bcd baby !
I'm sort of tempted by the Andel. Particularly the All City silver one with that awesome chrome finish. They have reverse sticker shock, can't believe they are so inexpensive. What BB are you running? I have a Tange 110.5mm installed in my Kilo now, that's JIS, right? Would I gain any stiffness by swapping that out? Might be able to put the All City right onto my existing BB, and that is very appealing. Thoughts?

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I'm sort of tempted by the Andel. Particularly the All City silver one with that awesome chrome finish. They have reverse sticker shock, can't believe they are so inexpensive. What BB are you running? I have a Tange 110.5mm installed in my Kilo now, that's JIS, right? Would I gain any stiffness by swapping that out? Might be able to put the All City right onto my existing BB, and that is very appealing. Thoughts?

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I have the Andel 110mm BB in two bikes, and the original whatever BBs that came with those bikes in the other two. I doubt there would be any difference in stiffness, but don't know if the Tange would work. I'll let @Scrodzilla chime in on that one.
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I have the Andel 110mm BB in two bikes, and the original whatever BBs that came with those bikes in the other two. I doubt there would be any difference in stiffness, but don't know if the Tange would work. I'll let @Scrodzilla chime in on that one.



Any 110mm JIS bottom bracket will work with Andels.
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Any 110mm JIS bottom bracket will work with Andels.
Awesome, so the Tange I have is definitely JIS?

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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
Record Pista is light and pretty, but not very stiff at all compared to other square taper track cranksets in its class like DA 7710 and Sugino 75.
Stiffness...that makes sense. I have always wondered why people seem to just not like the Campy crank and nobody seems to really have had a great reason but you actually hit something reasonable.
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