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Old 01-12-21, 06:01 PM
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Sub 11.0 cogs

Anyone have any info on these? The only thing I find on google has to do with their track ends on old Surlys. Seems pretty decent quality. I was going to post it for sale locally but don't know where it sits as far as quality and desirability to price it accordingly.
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A bigger question is how many people are going to want a 13T cog. I have one that I only used very occasionally for over gear power training, but never for racing, way too tall. Never mind riding on the street.
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Never heard of the brand but TejanoTrackie brings up good points. There is a 14t on eBay for 15 buckaroos or Make an offer so I would assume you could potentially ask around that amount, at least according to the market.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
A bigger question is how many people are going to want a 13T cog. I have one that I only used very occasionally for over gear power training, but never for racing, way too tall. Never mind riding on the street.
I agree. It's been banging around in my parts bin for a couple years now. Never had a use for it. Maybe for tracklecross with a 39 or 42t ring?
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Originally Posted by BoozyMcliverRot View Post
...The only thing I find on google has to do with their track ends on old Surlys....
Yes, that's right. IIRC from the stories I found when I was checking - the 1st Surly bike, which was originally thought of as Sub 11 not a Surly, was a 1x1 that had Sub 11 stamped trackends. In short order Sub 11 got folded into Surly/QBP and lost to history. FWIW I've seen a Sub11 lockring. Did I say Sub 11 enough?
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Originally Posted by IAmSam View Post
Yes, that's right. IIRC from the stories I found when I was checking - the 1st Surly bike, which was originally thought of as Sub 11 not a Surly, was a 1x1 that had Sub 11 stamped trackends. In short order Sub 11 got folded into Surly/QBP and lost to history. FWIW I've seen a Sub11 lockring. Did I say Sub 11 enough?
Is this a new drinking game?

I didn't know about QBP taking over. Kind of sucky they got lost but I do like QBP they are the most organized and easy to use of all the different distributors and they do tend to a have a good wide selection of stuff I like and use. Their warranty department in some places could use a little jolt of speed but overall I am pretty satisfied.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
A bigger question is how many people are going to want a 13T cog. I have one that I only used very occasionally for over gear power training, but never for racing, way too tall. Never mind riding on the street.
I have both a 13t and a 12t and use them. Not a lot, but when they are used, wow! are they appreciated. I run 42t or 43t chainring on my good fix gear (my logo on the left) and run all the 1/8" cogs when needed. Most of the time the cogs are 15t - 18t, running on nominally flat ground or small hills. But I designed that bike to go into big hills riding gears that were appropriate for a body that is no longer young. 42-23 or 42-24 are far more civilized on long, hard climbs of 1000' or more. Same issue downhill. 42-17 is not fun for an old butt. But 42-12 at 45+ MPH is a blast! The 3000' or so down into Ashland, OR - ear to ear fun. Descending the Crater Lake Rim down the North Entrance - in that gear, to die for. I've done it twice and will probably do it again. (Oh, that Ashland descent - I rode the 10 miles into town in that gear because I didn't want to stop. Kinda over-geared! Stopped near my destination. Got back on and it was "Nope, gotta change gears!")

Edit: That cog is a Sub11? I counted the teeth. It's a Super11. Second edit: That looks like a cog I would like. Nice, square teeth (and probably a little noisy). I have a newer Surly with rounded tooth edges. Much quieter but I have to run the chain a lot tighter to keep it from throwing off on rough roads and high speeds. I run EurAsia cogs in part because they are very square and secure. I see a lot of them at the Velodrome.

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Edit: That cog is a Sub11? I counted the teeth. It's a Super11. Second edit: That looks like a cog I would like. Nice, square teeth (and probably a little noisy). I have a newer Surly with rounded tooth edges. Much quieter but I have to run the chain a lot tighter to keep it from throwing off on rough roads and high speeds. I run EurAsia cogs in part because they are very square and secure. I see a lot of them at the Velodrome.[/QUOTE]

It does seem to be a really high quality. The teeth are definitely sharp. I picked it up in a lot of NOS parts a couple years ago but never used it as I usually only need a 15,16 or 17t cog.

I will say I'm a little disappointed that there hasn't been a SpinalTap reference yet.
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Yeah, Sub11 was bought up by QBP in the early '00s. 02, I think. By 2004, I stopped seeing sub11 cogs in q's catalog and started seeing surly branded ones.
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