Walking up hills
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,820
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2436 Post(s)
Liked 429 Times
in
312 Posts
Walking up hills
Hey guys, are there any hills around you that you walk up when you are feeling lazy or tired? I live on a crazy hill and usually walk up it when on my single speed even though I can make it up by zig zagging, feel kind of lame walking my bike though
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,381
Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0
Mentioned: 110 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5178 Post(s)
Liked 3,475 Times
in
2,283 Posts
I've done it, even w/ a geared bike. it happens. I try not to. but there's no shame, if no one sees you ;-)
Likes For rumrunn6:
#3
bironi
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 213
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 74 Post(s)
Liked 202 Times
in
84 Posts
With an aging body I find no shame in walking a hill that is too much work.
I have the choice to suffer or not.
In my earlier years riding fixed gear I always challenged myself to see if I could make it up the hill.
Now even if I know I can, I'll often choose to cross-train instead.
I think I'll get more years out of my partial knee replacement as well.
I have the choice to suffer or not.
In my earlier years riding fixed gear I always challenged myself to see if I could make it up the hill.
Now even if I know I can, I'll often choose to cross-train instead.
I think I'll get more years out of my partial knee replacement as well.
#6
Senior Member
Nothing wrong with walking a bike up a hill, or on flat land for that matter.
While walking up a short, semi steep gravel trail I suggested to a man walking his multi speed bike up that he probably has a low enough gear to ride it. Turns out he was quite capable of riding up, But had been on the bike for many miles and just wanted to walk it up.
Even on flat land, I sometimes walk my bike. It just feels good after riding a while and I'm not in a hurry anyway. Then when I get back on I feel more energized.
While walking up a short, semi steep gravel trail I suggested to a man walking his multi speed bike up that he probably has a low enough gear to ride it. Turns out he was quite capable of riding up, But had been on the bike for many miles and just wanted to walk it up.
Even on flat land, I sometimes walk my bike. It just feels good after riding a while and I'm not in a hurry anyway. Then when I get back on I feel more energized.
#7
Member
There's no shame in walking. Especially if it keeps you from blowing your knees out.
#8
Clark W. Griswold
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 12,648
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Mentioned: 52 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4000 Post(s)
Liked 3,502 Times
in
2,341 Posts
HTFU Larry. Don't be a wimp if you don't ride a 60/13 up real mountains you are not worthy of riding a bike.
#9
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,820
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2436 Post(s)
Liked 429 Times
in
312 Posts
Youre right though I need to HTFU, last weigh in was 263 lbs so the steep stuff is hard especially when carrying stuff
#10
Banned.
There are ways to make steep climbing easier by changing a few adjustments on your bike.
for example, if you're coming up to a steep climb, stop at the side the of the road and make adjustments to the saddle, move it all the way forward and tilt the nose down. How much tilt depends on the gradient. For example, if you're climbing a 12% gradient, a nose down saddle tilt of 12 degrees more or less would be ideal.
It's going to be worth the adjustment for longer climbs. But at the end of the climb, you'll have to make stop again and restore previous adjustments to the saddle because a tilt down forward saddle can be uncomfortable in the flats or downhills.
for example, if you're coming up to a steep climb, stop at the side the of the road and make adjustments to the saddle, move it all the way forward and tilt the nose down. How much tilt depends on the gradient. For example, if you're climbing a 12% gradient, a nose down saddle tilt of 12 degrees more or less would be ideal.
It's going to be worth the adjustment for longer climbs. But at the end of the climb, you'll have to make stop again and restore previous adjustments to the saddle because a tilt down forward saddle can be uncomfortable in the flats or downhills.
Last edited by qwaalodge; 04-06-22 at 10:14 PM.
Likes For qwaalodge:
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,511
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 585 Post(s)
Liked 611 Times
in
447 Posts
Depends on how much adjustment you can get out of your fork ends. Personally I think that’s too big a difference. When were you suggesting you would change gears? Before the ride? During? There’s also the Surly Dingle Cogs with two cogs on one side as a possibility.
Likes For TugaDude:
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eastern Iowa
Posts: 631
Bikes: 2014 Trek Allant drop bar conversion, modified Schwinn MTN commuter, 2015 Trek 520, Soma ES, Salsa Journeyman, 1980 Trek 414
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 178 Post(s)
Liked 355 Times
in
166 Posts
I have never walked a hill that wasn't covered in snow
#13
Quixote
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: New York
Posts: 164
Bikes: Bianchi Pista Concept 05, Level 2014
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 44 Post(s)
Liked 78 Times
in
60 Posts

And this.
I see people all the time get off off and walk up Harlem hill in Central Park and that's only about a 4.5 grade - plus they are usually abandoning the attempt on a geared bike...
If your walking up a 20% grade that still sounds like good exercise to me...
Cheers
Likes For Bianchi pc:
#14
Banned.
I did the same thing but in a moss-covered road in a hill. It was raining nonstop for one week and the road had turned green and incredibly slippery. I even have problem walking.
Not only I walked the bike uphill, I also walked it downhill! Too dangerous to ride it on such very slippery surface!
Not only I walked the bike uphill, I also walked it downhill! Too dangerous to ride it on such very slippery surface!
#15
Senior Member
There's a short semi steep hill near me that is good exercise for us seniors when walking up briskly. I've found even on my bike, The steeper parts take more effort to climb with my 21 gear inch sprockets then walking without the bike at a slightly slower pace.
It seems walking up steep grades is more efficient then on a bike. However, When we have the bike, It may be more comfortable to ride it up slowly rather then walk it if we have a low enough gear.
Hey Larry: My 21 gear inch low gear provides me with about 3x the mechanical advantage of a single speed bikes. But since there is only one challenging hill that I might ride, A single speed bike like yours would work well for me here too. I do like the simplicity of the single speed, But also like multiple speeds. I had a 3 speed internal hub as a kid and loved it. I'd like to try one of those today, perhaps one with the coaster brake. This way I still have a low gear for climbing, a tall gear to take advantage of a tailwind, and the clean look of a single speed drivetrain.
It seems walking up steep grades is more efficient then on a bike. However, When we have the bike, It may be more comfortable to ride it up slowly rather then walk it if we have a low enough gear.
Hey Larry: My 21 gear inch low gear provides me with about 3x the mechanical advantage of a single speed bikes. But since there is only one challenging hill that I might ride, A single speed bike like yours would work well for me here too. I do like the simplicity of the single speed, But also like multiple speeds. I had a 3 speed internal hub as a kid and loved it. I'd like to try one of those today, perhaps one with the coaster brake. This way I still have a low gear for climbing, a tall gear to take advantage of a tailwind, and the clean look of a single speed drivetrain.
Last edited by xroadcharlie; 04-07-22 at 12:15 PM.
#16
Newbie racer
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 3,393
Bikes: Propel, red is faster
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1571 Post(s)
Liked 1,553 Times
in
965 Posts
There's a pretty fit looking under 30 year old appearing single speed commuter that takes the greenway by my house a lot and I happen to always be driving home while they are walking the bike up the 10% grade hill that heads out of the creek bed by the greenway up to their final destination. No shame in it at all. In good weather perhaps a good moment to look around and just enjoy the few minutes walk.
#17
Guest
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 2,888
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1346 Post(s)
Liked 3,269 Times
in
1,439 Posts
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 12,401
Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder
Mentioned: 121 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4448 Post(s)
Liked 3,534 Times
in
2,298 Posts
The bike of my logo has a custom very long dropout. I can slide the wheel almost 2". 16 cogs. Well, almost. I can use between 12 teeth and 24 teeth without messing with the chain (if I have the length dialed in). A trick to getting the chain length right - use 1/2 links if needed. A 1/2 link is simply a 1//2" link with opposite "genders", ie outer plate at one end, bending in to an inner plate with roller at the other.
Without seeing your dropout or track end, I have no idea how many teeth you can change on your bike. I had a bike where I could barely get 2 teeth. Many bikes, 4 is not hard to do. Most track ends allow quite a bit more, I've never used them so I cannot help there,
#20
Guest
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 2,888
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1346 Post(s)
Liked 3,269 Times
in
1,439 Posts
All of my singlespeeds are geared in the low 60 gear inches. I've never had to walk it up anything paved, although I know of several hills around here that I would have to if I tried them. On steep climbs on loose dirt, sometimes the rear will break loose and force me off the pedals. That's part of the fun, and gives me a chance to practice my CX bike-shouldering skills.
#21
Clark W. Griswold
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 12,648
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Mentioned: 52 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4000 Post(s)
Liked 3,502 Times
in
2,341 Posts

Likes For veganbikes:
#22
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,820
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2436 Post(s)
Liked 429 Times
in
312 Posts
Boohoo. 63x13 up Alpé d'Huez all day every day with 50 lbs on the bike with three broken wheels (not on the bike just carrying them for fun). With a trail of females that I smoked going so fast I also probably left a couple pace lines behind me yesterday but I was going so fast I couldn't tell some cager cut me off so I beat him up and smashed his car and then did wheelies all over his eviscerated corpse. 

#23
Clark W. Griswold
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 12,648
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Mentioned: 52 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4000 Post(s)
Liked 3,502 Times
in
2,341 Posts
#25
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bastrop Texas
Posts: 4,144
Bikes: Univega, Peu P6, Peu PR-10, Ted Williams, Peu UO-8, Peu UO-18 Mixte, Peu Dolomites
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 804 Post(s)
Liked 1,378 Times
in
885 Posts
When you can cover faster distance by walking then pedaling then its time to walk. For me its at the 34:34. At that point if I run out of air I just go to my size 12D gear...
__________________
No matter where your at... There you are... Δf:=f(1/2)-f(-1/2)