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Old 05-02-06, 01:29 PM
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$75 for two locking track nuts!?! I'd really like to get the seat skewer or headset lock separately.
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Old 05-02-06, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kennethalan
Just great. As if I needed anymore reason to get those black phil's that I really REALLY want!
A couple more reasons. I can't wait to get mine.


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Originally Posted by sers
$75 for two locking track nuts!?! I'd really like to get the seat skewer or headset lock separately.
You surely can. I've got most of the Pitlock lineup in stock.

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Can you get the twin packs? i.e. two sets, keyed the same? This locking system seems less prone to wear than the OnGuard style, but I'd like to have one key for both my bikes' wheels..
Yes, Yoni - I order large shipments and make sure than I get the sets shipped in pairs keyed alike in case someone has a couple of bikes in the household. You still get two-keys per set, they just happen to be exactly the same. As for wear, they're very well built. When I have them, I'll include a replacement set of both the lockrings and teflon rings with orders. They're low value, but they will help ensure than people get a long, long life out of their set.

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Old 05-05-06, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by absntr
You can if you have Phil Woods. Phil's with the quick release conversion kit (locking skewers are meant for quick release hollow axles) allow the use of these. unaesthetic uses this set-up successfully.
Are there any pics available of this setup?
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Old 05-05-06, 06:39 AM
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Pitlock looks like it'd wear much better than the Onguard. I've only ever had the Krypto on front wheel only, ulock the rear, worked great. The Pitlock looks at least as tough or tougher, less chance of stripping out and having a wheel stuck on. Using a lil torque on device like Onguard seems like that's a real possibility. Plus Pitlock has a wide range for sizing, making sure you get the right one.

Onguard isn't trusted by anyone who depends on their ride for a living.

A few weeks ago I got steamed that Onguard exempts messengers from their theft protection policies. I wrote about it here and there and all the replies I got had a common theme. Most messer won't use Onguard because they fall apart with frequent use. No one thinks they don't cover messengers because they are commercial vehicles or becuase they don't trust messengers. They simply don't trust the product to stand up to daily usage & what we consider normal wear and tear. They know they would have to replace many locks and pay out for stolen bikes if messengers stopped using Krypto or chain & padlock combos.

I guess I knew that, but not on top of the brain. I never bought an onguard lock because they don't even look as sturdy with the fuax "tough material" finishes they put on the decorative outer layer of all their crap.

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I understand the appeal of Onguard, less $$. And you get to buy a new one every year, everyone loves shopping!
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Old 05-05-06, 07:05 AM
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I agree with Sam about only needing a locking skewer on the front wheel. I have a cheap one that uses a tool with a five sided allen key that has a little screw so that it won't slip out of the socket and round it out. I can't remember who makes them though. It works fine and gives me a little more peace of mind.
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Old 05-05-06, 08:37 AM
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Holy **** that pitlock is expensive! I'll just use my separate cable lock for my formula/AlexR390 front wheel. When I'm a doctor and I have Phils, I'll entertain getting some pitlocks..
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