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teiaperigosa 11-07-05 10:35 AM

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Had the pleasure of using this cool ass phil spoke machine that they had at the shop here to cut my spokes to the needed length. Even had to take apart the machine a little to get some spoke bits out of it and do a little oiling and maintenance (which was surprisingly easy). I'm building up my first wheel, and going through the process of cutting and threading the spokes, made it feel like it was that much more "from scratch". Sorry for the ****ty pics...my phone doesn't work well under certain lighting (in this case...sunlight....*smh*).
http://www.geocities.com/teiaperigosa/image317.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/teiaperigosa/image318.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/teiaperigosa/image319.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/teiaperigosa/image320.jpg

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after getting the spokes together...here is the wheel half laced 3 leading 3 trailing

http://www.geocities.com/teiaperigosa/image321.jpg
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and here are the fully laced glamour shots....the pattern looks so cool curved this way, that I almost don't want to tension the wheel and straighten it out
:o

http://www.geocities.com/teiaperigosa/image323.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/teiaperigosa/image324.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/teiaperigosa/image325.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/teiaperigosa/image326.jpg


peace

edit: substitute appropriate pic below for red x's or blue ?'s or whatever you get

Aeroplane 11-07-05 11:26 AM

I'm just getting the red X's...

griffin_ 11-07-05 11:41 AM

wait i see 'em now
they look nice but not too strong

Cynikal 11-07-05 12:15 PM

They were up an hour ago. Cool pattern.

Dogbait 11-07-05 12:31 PM

teiaperigosa,
How do you calculate the spoke length for that pattern? Is it the same as 3x?

Dogbait

Judah 11-07-05 12:34 PM

Whee, my three/three wheel is all built now too. Looks so nice, congrats!

teiaperigosa 11-07-05 12:50 PM

Dogbait,
it is the same as 3x...and that's why it should be theoretically the same strength as a 3x wheel..because the tangent angle from the spoke to the hub is the same for all spokes

Judah,
can you post pics?

Judah 11-07-05 12:55 PM

Not before it's unveiling in Chicago. :p
I'll post pics after that...

BostonFixed 11-07-05 01:41 PM

Are the spokes on that wheel bent? Or is it just an optical ilusion?

drac_vamp 11-07-05 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by teiaperigosa
...the pattern looks so cool curved this way, that I almost don't want to tension the wheel and straighten it out

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techone 11-07-05 01:56 PM

The wheel is only laced, not tensioned or trued yet.
I've been wanting to build one like that for a while now. Just gotta get my arse down to the LBS to buy the stuff...

poopncow 11-07-05 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by Judah
Not before it's unveiling in Chicago. :p
I'll post pics after that...

Can't wait to see it this weekend.

Judah 11-07-05 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by poopncow
Can't wait to see it this weekend.

It's just another keirin bike, yawn...

:p

whoo-flung-poo 11-08-05 04:12 PM

from your pic it looks like you interlaced the spokes within each other...

if so you may want to reconsider unweaving them a bit as it creates a high tension spot which could lead to spoke failure. i had problems with this wheel which is now retired.

http://www.geocities.com/christopher...e/P8030541.JPG

teiaperigosa 11-08-05 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by whoo-flung-poo
from your pic it looks like you interlaced the spokes within each other...

if so you may want to reconsider unweaving them a bit as it creates a high tension spot which could lead to spoke failure. i had problems with this wheel which is now retired.

http://www.geocities.com/christopher...e/P8030541.JPG

what kind of problems did you have?

gravityhurts 11-08-05 06:28 PM

will you sponsor me for the 2006 paris-roubaix classic ?

whoo-flung-poo 11-09-05 12:08 PM

ther tension created where all 6 interwoven spokes crossed within a 2.5" square was too much.. which led to spoke breakage.


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