135 spaced track frames
11-21-05, 03:58 PM
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135 spaced track frames
So I am wondering if there are any. I am about to buy some new hubs, but I am also about to build up a ss 29er, so if there were any 135 spaced track frames I could use these same wheels for both and that would be badass. thanks
11-21-05, 04:03 PM
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I think your answer may be found with Level Components.
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Originally Posted by Walkercycles
I wouldnt consider them true "track" frames though...
a "true" track frame will have a spacing of 120,sometimes in Japan 110.
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a "true" track frame will have a spacing of 120,sometimes in Japan 110.
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Kogswell single-fixed framesets aren't track bikes or even path racers.
They're the result of sixty years of fixed gear road cycling shared between
the two designers, myself and a close friend and riding buddy; the guy who
actully got me interested in bikes and fixed gear cycling back in '69.
If they seem polished and smooth it's because spent a lot of years in
the saddle going over evey detail until it <was> polished.
And before I forget, if the original poster wants to get a nice 135mm
rear fixee hub, Tony (IRO) still has some of the original 135mm,
Kogswell-designed rear hubs in stock. They built with super fancy
hardware and they use the 'tight' bearing design, which renders them
very durable. We wanted them be tough enough to stand up to the
rigors of urban cycling and so for, no one is complaining.
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A 29er rim is different then a 700c.
11-21-05, 05:47 PM
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i thought 29ers were a little wider than a standard 700c
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Originally Posted by Kogswell
I've been wondering... what is a "true" track frame?
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Originally Posted by The Fixer
Watch those track crankarms clearing wide splayed chainstays...
11-21-05, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lbthomps
i thought 29ers were a little wider than a standard 700c
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Originally Posted by lbthomps
i thought 29ers were a little wider than a standard 700c
Open Pros seem to be pretty popular 29er rims. I've seen people run 2" tires on them.
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Originally Posted by travsi
i (as a non-expert) would say the geometry including ability to accept track spaced hubs (120mm or 110mm as stated by don) as well as the single gear lacking a freewheel (fixed gear). not to forget the lack of brakes and brake holes ...etc.
So what does the geometry look like?
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i think the van dessel country road bob is 135.
surly crosscheck can also work with 135.
probably not going to find any off the shelf frame with track geometry & 135 spacing.
surly crosscheck can also work with 135.
probably not going to find any off the shelf frame with track geometry & 135 spacing.
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Originally Posted by Kogswell
So what does the geometry look like?
tight clearances.
high bb.
overlapping of toe clip and front wheel.
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Originally Posted by fatbat
i think the van dessel country road bob is 135.
surly crosscheck can also work with 135.
probably not going to find any off the shelf frame with track geometry & 135 spacing.
surly crosscheck can also work with 135.
probably not going to find any off the shelf frame with track geometry & 135 spacing.
the CRB is totally 135.
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Originally Posted by dmg
Surly Crosschecks and Iro Rob Roys and Jaime Roys all take 135s.
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Originally Posted by treechunk
the CRB is totally 135.
11-22-05, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennetht638
I don't think my Jamie Roy would like a 135mm hub shoved up its 130mm track ends. Also, it doesn't really have track geometry. This sounds like a custom job.
i shoved a 135 XT mountain hub in my trek 600, which is spaced at 130. if the jamie roy is steel, it's all good.
11-22-05, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by travsi
steep angles.
tight clearances.
high bb.
overlapping of toe clip and front wheel.
tight clearances.
high bb.
overlapping of toe clip and front wheel.
- 120 or 110 rear spacing
- a fixed gear
- no brakes or brake drilling
- steep angles
- tight clearances
- high bottom bracket
- TOC (toe clip overlap)
Not to be dense, but how steep should the angles be? And should they be the same front and rear?
Also, how high should the BB be. And is it better to talk about BB height or BB drop (front wheel axle centerline)? Oh, and is there a reason why TOC is required? I'm gonna assume 700C (ISO 622) wheels.
And if someone could list chainstay length and fork offset, I'd be obliged. Thanks!
One more thing... how tight are the clearances?
11-22-05, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennetht638
I don't think my Jamie Roy would like a 135mm hub shoved up its 130mm track ends. Also, it doesn't really have track geometry. This sounds like a custom job.