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Ceya 12-02-05 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by chicagoamdream
Where can I get a decal made with my name on it (like e-Richie's got on his Nagasawa, which is probably painted)?


go to a shop that make decals for motorcycles.

I got my name on my UNO on the down tube.

If you want, let me know and my cousin makes them also. ( sponsored his AMA ride til he crashed before his first race)

S/F,
CEYA!

Grimlach 12-02-05 12:01 PM

It's not the Bike that makes the rider.

Ie. people can spend as much as they wish on comonents and frames if they're not willing give it there all while riding. Whats the point. To look cool?

sohi 12-02-05 12:06 PM

wow.. the finish on the nagasawa is not as nice as I would have expected for the price.

e-RICHIE 12-02-05 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by sohi
wow.. the finish on the nagasawa is not as nice as I would have expected for the price.



that's odd.
i think of the frame as the sum total of his nearly 40 years in the trade.
to wit, i think it's perfect. wabi-sabi, and all that! at the end of the day,
anybody could look at anything handmade and say, "foul". what is the point
of that? try to understand the history of the builder's line and i suspect you'll
look deeper than the paint layer.
e-RICHIE©™®

sohi 12-02-05 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by e-RICHIE
that's odd.
i think of the frame as the sum total of his nearly 40 years in the trade.
to wit, i think it's perfect. wabi-sabi, and all that! at the end of the day,
anybody could look at anything handmade and say, "foul". what is the point
of that? try to understand the history of the builder's line and i suspect you'll
look deeper than the paint layer.
e-RICHIE©™®

I dont mean the paint but the bumpy surface underneath. looks very "british" ;)

e-RICHIE 12-02-05 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by sohi
I dont mean the paint but the bumpy surface underneath. looks very "british" ;)



that's what i mean...
it's not about just the paint, or just
the lug edge, or just the tube guage...

gestalt?!

e-RICHIE©™®

jim-bob 12-02-05 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by e-RICHIE
that's what i mean...
it's not about just the paint, or just
the lug edge, or just the tube guage...

gestalt?!

e-RICHIE©™®

Agreed. A bike built by a human, even a human with decades and decades of experience, should still 'feel' like it was built by a human, not a line of angry robots.

e-RICHIE 12-02-05 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by jim-bob
Agreed. A bike built by a human, even a human with decades and decades of experience, should still 'feel' like it was built by a human, not a line of angry robots.



agreed. thanks.
...and not just any human - my favorite
builder and muse: nagasawa. the man.
e-RICHIE©™®

wangster 12-02-05 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by e-RICHIE

gestalt?!

e-RICHIE©™®


I think thats what a track bike is all about... the gestalt of it is the important thing and what draws me to it.

sohi 12-02-05 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by jim-bob
Agreed. A bike built by a human, even a human with decades and decades of experience, should still 'feel' like it was built by a human, not a line of angry robots.

so rich adams (as an example) is just building crap bikes that look like made by robots?

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...tachmentid=159

jim-bob 12-02-05 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by sohi
so rich adams (as an example) is just building crap bikes that look like made by robots?

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...tachmentid=159

I dunno, I've never ridden one.

(I'm not sure I'd call ultra-clean bikes crap, but they're not my thing, personally. I like to see traces of human imperfection in my handbuilt things.)

Bing 12-02-05 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by jim-bob
......I like to see traces of human imperfection in my handbuilt things.)

The quest for perfection never realized vs. the soulless march toward six-sigma quality assurance standards.

Best summed up with my e-RICHIE t-shirt that proudly states "imperfection is perfection"

dolface 12-02-05 09:04 PM

show me the file marks!

Sneaky Pete 12-02-05 09:13 PM

B-Port.....

Isn't that where Martha Stewart lives? -or shoul I say........ M-Stew?

juvi-kyle 12-02-05 10:22 PM

Holy mother of god


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