Fantomas

I was at my girlfriends folks place over Thanksgiving weekend in PDX.. blahblahblahblah etc.

While roaming around.. I saw an old Peugot under the back deck.
After talking to GF's father.. he explained that it was his bike in college and that I was very welcome to take it.

This is not mine however this is the same frame and everything, taken from FGG

https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/jan/dave.htm

So, the things I am curious about:

Is the quill (stem) 22.2 or 22.0 on this? I think that it may be 22.0 being that it's french.
It has cottered cranks = does not suit me at all and would be broken quite quickly... So, is this also a hokey french BB situation?

Other than these concerns, I would like to clean it up and powder coat the frame.... use it for winter.

hyperRevue

Don't powder coat that frame.
So pretty.

Fantomas

yes... i completely agree. However there are a couple spots of rust that simply will not do.. If I don't powder coat it I will just get a bomb can of the paint matched.

hyperRevue

Isn't there some technique with clear nail polish to cover up rust spots?

chicagoamdream

What's up with Peugeots in PDX? I was there over Thanksgiving as well...my sister's boyfriend and my sister's roommate's boyfriend both had Peugeot conversions...they've got a PX-10 frame in the co-op...just everywhere.

Yeah, keep the stock paint, use nail polish.

Fantomas

I dunno... In the same yard they had an old trek rotting away... but I did not have the room or interest to bring it back.
I agree with the paint suggestions.. we will just have to see how it goes.

Any thoughts on the component sizing?

genericbikedude

to check for whether or not the headset is french, look to see if there is a gap in the threads, or if the threads are filed off. to check for french BB, take it all apart (you are not using the cottored crank anyways) and see if it is wrong-threaded. i'm bad with left and right. check SB's website.

jhnmrk

there is a pougemahon fellow (sp?) who can speak to all things french and peugeot. looks to me like you might have a french situation on your hands there, though...

JonnyBoy

I have that same model. Peugeot U0-8. French BB, French headset.



Jon

JonnyBoy

One other thing, there was a good thread about using modern cranks in older french threaded bikes. I think it was called 'puegeot crank options'.


Jon

Fantomas

Scweet.

You know of a drop stem that will work without sanding ? 22.0?

Seggybop

I had one of these. Not any more since I rammed it into a car and bent it up, but it was pretty nice while it lasted.

There were cottered cranks, which gave me a really hard time. I ended up having to use a drill and a blowtorch to get them off. When I finally did, I replaced the BB spindle and cranks with relatively nice Sakae ones from another bike. Same for the stem, which fit no problem.

Fantomas

still got the BB then for some $?

humancongereel

pogue mahone? as in gaelic for "kiss my ass"?

Fantomas

yeah.. a rare example of french-gaelic... otherwise known as smelly alcoholic. I'm quite fluent.

wibikeandy

I have not seen very many 22.0 stems, but most of them are usually around 73 deg (paralell to the ground). You should just keep the stem that the bike came with.

As for the BB, you could get a phil wood with french cups. Should you ever want to ditch the Peugot, the phil can be used in other frames simply by getting the appropriate cup set for about 25 bucks (bb is 130-150 i think)

Seggybop

the replacement?

dmg

I'm in the midst of converting a 70s Anquetile. The cheapest / easiest way around the cottered cranks issue is to swap out the spindle for a square one and reuse the cups, and (most likely) replace the loose bearings with a ring. Get a 110 spindle and you've got a perfect chainline...

Fantomas

I was out stripping off all the excess parts and just came in for a beer... That ****ing stem REFUSES to come out of the headset... Granted I should just re-use it.. but I still need to get the bastard out.

I'm thinking that unforunately the full paintjob or powder coating will be unavoidable... there is just a lil too much surface rust here and there.

ThaRiddla

why won't it budge? bolt won't loosen? if the bolt loosens, try tapping the top of it with a rubber mallet to force the wedge down.

Poguemahone

Turn the bike upside down. You should be able to see up the steerer tube, unless it's been corked. If it has been, remove cork. Spray PB blaster into the steerer tube. Repeat a couple times, leave frame upside down overnight. Turn bike over, Loosen stem bolt, smack with rubber mallet.

It's French threaded throughout. Mid seventies UO8, if like the pictured bike. Nice urabn beater fixie frameset, if that's what you're looking for; frame geometry is a nice blend of comfort and speed.

There's a number of bottom bracket options besides Phil.

jhnmrk

told ya so...

Portlandonian

I got tired of reading all the talk about random peugeot and other things so I will now ANSWER THE QUESTION.


I am 100% positive it is a french stem. Also the BB will not be able to be replaced because it is also French sizing. Unless you want to spend over $100 for one on ebay. I have a PX-10 conversion and I am using a nitto stem that I sanded down to fit. I would recommend not building this bike, you can probably find a crappy old frame that at least has standard sizing other places.

BostonFixed

If I were going to use it as a winter beater, I wouldn't waste the time/$$$/etc. futzing around with a powdercoat, new stem, headset, etc.

If the bearings really need it, repack them.

Leave the original paint, leave the drops or cut them into bulhorns. You will be replacing the rear wheel anyways, get some new kool stop salmon pads for the front brake.. etc.

Poguemahone

" Also the BB will not be able to be replaced because it is also French sizing. Unless you want to spend over $100 for one on ebay."

That's funny. I just bought one for seven bucks. I'll write the seller and tell him he undercharged me.

BB options include chamfered BBs (yst, about 20$), Phil Wood Rings/Shimano un72 BB combo (Last set of rings I bought about 20$, find this model BB all the time) or old Sugino or Sakae French threaded cups, which tend to go for around 20$ when they pop up on ebuy. The last are handy because you can use standard Japanese cranks and spindles from the eighties on the bike.

I generally don't recommend putting too much into a UO8 (not that special), but if you can do it cheaply, they make good urban beater rides. Mine gets ridden to movies late at night, that kind of thing. Capable, durable, and comfortable. For a lower-end road bike, it's surprisingly nimble and light; my stripped down fixie is right around 20 lbs.

If it's stock and you want a rider, you need to ditch the steel rims and the cottered crank.

French bikes require a certain amount of patience. If you decide to go thru with it, you can PM me and I'll help you out the best I can. Your decision, ultimately. French bikes are not where I send newcomers, but that may be because I want the supply to stay high and the demand low...

But this is old ground, we went over all of it here:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...+swiss+peugeot