r-dub

1) I know that there have been many discussions on cranks (including these) in recent posts. I did use the search feature.

2) I am fully aware of the bottom bracket differences.

All I'm asking is whether I should drop an extra 50 bucks to upgrade from Sugino 75 cranks to Record. Please help! Considerations: I'm a big fan of quality. I'm both heavy and powerful. Cranks will be used on road and track. The price factor really isn't a concern right now.

juvi-kyle

Go with the Campy cranks, I have found that they much stiffer and you can use a sealed BB that is actually made for it. And if you dont want to spend the extra for the Record BB, you can get a centaur BB for half the price.

r-dub

I've got a phil bb in campy taper that I'd probably use for now.

dolface

dunno dude, i think you'll get more bang for your buck w/ the 75's. i've seen plenty of busted campy's (usually at the pedal eye) but have yet to see a busted 75 (granted, the campy's have been around a lot longer).

i'd pick campy's everytime myself, but that's on'y cause i think the 75's are ugly (and i'm not big/strong enough to be breaking stuff).

Jamtastic

the campy's are gorgeous. Hottest crank IMO

OneTinSloth

you've seen new campy cranks break at the pedal eye, or the old ones? also, is the OP asking about the old ones or the new ones?

r-dub

the s.f.b.a. folks are going to crap their pants when they see the final build...I'll be laughed out of every scene in town.

r-dub

new

jonb

what kind of frame??

btw i have 75s and they're great but my next build will run the campys, they're too beautiful.

dolface

oops, only the old ones. (also, i think the new ones are ugly too; i HATE the font they're using).

i mourn the loss of fluted cranks.

</whiny aesthete>

shants

i think the newer campagnolo cranks are the ugliest ****ing **** ever. **** that garbage to hell.

i would easily pick the 75s over any other current cranks (with the exception of the mightys), both in terms of quality and aesthetics. the older campagnolo cranks are pretty nice looking, but so are the older sugino and suntour cranks. hell, i think the older sugino mightys and suntour superbes are way hotter than campagnolo.

rafi

the sugino mighty cranks look quite similar to the campy of the same vintage

baxtefer

i'm not the only one!!!!!

but i vote for DA 7710's just to be different.

absntr

I have both. I like them both a lot. It's hard to say which is better -- I've run both on the street and the track and both are plenty stiff.

I ran the Sugino 75's followed by the Campy's later (the new ones, I also have the old ones and those are nice too) and felt a difference in stiffness, with the Campy's feeling slightly more stiffer than the 75's.

I attribute this to "feel", much like how a frame will feel and flex differently than another, the cranks have a feel to them too, aside from stiffness. The Campy's feel lighter in some sense, perhaps due to the larger and bulging spider, and I feel as if the q-factor is slightly bigger (111mm BB spindle versus 109mm).

Then there are of course aesthetics -- do you prefer the understated workingman's non-nonsense minimal appeal of the 75's or the flashy and shiny smooth curves of the Campy?

I do feel, at the older price, that the 75's were good bang for the buck. Nowadays, the difference isn't much but if you wanted to go for visual appeal, I'd go Campy.

I do feel that perhaps the Campy has a slight advantage overall. If I had to choose based on experience, I'd go with the Campy.

I don't think you can go wrong with either though.

Edit: Caveat emptor and to each their own. I like all of my cranks.

r-dub

damn, I knew it would come to this...I'll get one of each and then see what feels/looks best on which bike...

Ceya

for me Campy. I have ridden Campy to the ground. I have ridden Sugino and have the 75 right now. I will stick with Campy but older Campy is better..Super Record! Sugino 75 reminds me of SRec

S/F,
CEYA!

juvi-kyle

You are so ****ing dumb.

ostro

i have only ridden campy for road cranks and its been the pair of old Stradas. They are begining to crack near the arm and spider. My guess is that they have 20,000+ miles on them. But I just ordered the new black suginos for my build.

Ceya

how r they new? they been around for 19 plus years...only slight changes but it is the same basic design.

S/F,
CEYA!

definition

WWKBD?

Ceya

?? barney style please for us un abbreviated people.

S/F,
CEYA!

definition

Oh, personal mantra of mine, what would kevin bacon do? I postulate that he'd rock the Suginos. They look so much nicer than that gaudy campy spider.

shants

when i say "new," i am referring to the style of spider on the campagnolo cranks that curve down from the crankbolt to the chainring. that is foul. thumbs down.

Ceya

still it almost 20 yrs old. I don't like it that much either but I have seen some wild stuff over the years.

i think it takes stress off the chainring arms.

S/F,
Ceya!

juvi-kyle

C-record = SUPER SEX

That spider is so hot, I think I have masturbated to it many of times.