Defensive Urban Riding Video
01-21-06, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by .:Jimbo:.
Maybe safety isn't the right word, something more like a beginner urban riding vid .
As an example, i though safe, when i first started riding was riding at 3 mph and jumping off if i ever felt out of control, but now i still feel safe blasting down broadway at 20 mph plus, So simply saying that one must travel at 3 mph in standstill traffic to be safe, although some-what true, you could possibly undermine the viewer, and those who do move at a brisk pace would feel as if this vid did not apply to them. Thats all about preference of the rider and can't simply be changed through a video.
If it was geared more as an urban rider beginner video you can send your message to the viewers without judging thier confidence on their bike.
Some ideas of things to add in such vid- to learn what to expect from other drivers, how to look for cars pulling out of parking spaces, how to encounter opening doors safetly, encountering potholes safetly, etc. These are thing an unexperienced urban rider might not know and ully understand.
Anyways ill help out, time willing, of coarse.
As an example, i though safe, when i first started riding was riding at 3 mph and jumping off if i ever felt out of control, but now i still feel safe blasting down broadway at 20 mph plus, So simply saying that one must travel at 3 mph in standstill traffic to be safe, although some-what true, you could possibly undermine the viewer, and those who do move at a brisk pace would feel as if this vid did not apply to them. Thats all about preference of the rider and can't simply be changed through a video.
If it was geared more as an urban rider beginner video you can send your message to the viewers without judging thier confidence on their bike.
Some ideas of things to add in such vid- to learn what to expect from other drivers, how to look for cars pulling out of parking spaces, how to encounter opening doors safetly, encountering potholes safetly, etc. These are thing an unexperienced urban rider might not know and ully understand.
Anyways ill help out, time willing, of coarse.
01-21-06, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
I've never understood the logic of taking my hand off the bar to signal to someone that should be a safe following distance behind me. Most cars don't signal turns OR lane changes. Sorry these hands are made for steering, shifting and braking....when I do brake. The messengers will just laugh their asses off at trying to teach someone to obey the road rules when NOBODY else does at all. Especially in NYC.
01-21-06, 01:27 PM
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we could donate the finished DVD to bike co-ops, TA, messenger associations, times-up, etc. as something that they could manufacture from a single master that we would give them and that they could then sell to benefit their groups.
01-21-06, 03:17 PM
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actually, something that I could help with, and might not be a bad idea, is I have access to a car whenever I need it, all I have to do is ride to Jersey to get it. might be useful to show the best way out of certain dangerous situations, left/right hooks, etc, with a semi thought out scene.
01-21-06, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nycm'er
Lastly, I am a film snob too, but I can't imagine lugging around a Minima or SR that is worth 100 grand or more, which you have to reload every 2.5 to 11 minutes, when you could let a friend's 24p strapped to your fork, roll for an hour.
01-21-06, 07:50 PM
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Yeah that would be sweet. I'd love to help in anyway, but Oregon's far enough away I don't think I could do much.
But would it be stuff like "How to spot a car thats about to pull out" Or more like "This is the way to do a super long no handed cross legged skid while ordering a pizza" sort of thing. In other words in this a guide to keep you riding safely, or a guide to keep you riding like a pimp?
But would it be stuff like "How to spot a car thats about to pull out" Or more like "This is the way to do a super long no handed cross legged skid while ordering a pizza" sort of thing. In other words in this a guide to keep you riding safely, or a guide to keep you riding like a pimp?
01-21-06, 08:03 PM
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you should include a few tips on how to ride with other people. i've ridden with a few people before who didn't really know how to keep a line, proper spacing, etc and sometimes it's a bit dangerous. if you need another person to film riding, let me know.
01-21-06, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pistaboy
In other words in this a guide to keep you riding safely, or a guide to keep you riding like a pimp?
01-21-06, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pistaboy
Yeah that would be sweet. I'd love to help in anyway, but Oregon's far enough away I don't think I could do much.
But would it be stuff like "How to spot a car thats about to pull out" Or more like "This is the way to do a super long no handed cross legged skid while ordering a pizza" sort of thing. In other words in this a guide to keep you riding safely, or a guide to keep you riding like a pimp?
But would it be stuff like "How to spot a car thats about to pull out" Or more like "This is the way to do a super long no handed cross legged skid while ordering a pizza" sort of thing. In other words in this a guide to keep you riding safely, or a guide to keep you riding like a pimp?
i was under the impression that it was more the former...how to dodge giant deathmobiles. which is where i have most of my fun on a fixie.
01-22-06, 04:43 AM
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Hey guys! I have an idea for the video. Why not use an old persons voice as a speakover? Find an old relative and persuade them to participate. The speakover voice should be used as a kind of old film instructor, like one of those films you watched in school: "Hello kids! Today we're going to discover the beautiful world of safety!"
Just an idea! I love video projects! Wish I lived in NYC.
Just an idea! I love video projects! Wish I lived in NYC.
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01-22-06, 07:03 AM
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I like the idea. I'm helping a friend shoot photos for a book about urban cycling (design class project). Finding dangerous situations isn't very hard with all the bad drivers out there. Here's me 5 minutes into the first ride.
01-22-06, 07:08 AM
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Also here's some DIY bike camera mounts my buddy used.
https://www.camerahacker.com/build/Bi...ra_Mount.shtml
https://eeio.blogspot.com/2005/02/diy...era-mount.html
works good so far!
https://www.camerahacker.com/build/Bi...ra_Mount.shtml
https://eeio.blogspot.com/2005/02/diy...era-mount.html
works good so far!
01-22-06, 05:10 PM
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Sounds good we all got little tips.
06-27-06, 09:52 AM
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you ever seen this site? https://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/index.htm
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this is fantastic. I have been taking all my non-messenger semi-sporty friends on City Riding "training rides" to get them comfortable in traffic, oriented on how to plot routes, basic maintenence and where/who you go to for help since I started riding because it is learned. I know I'd be super into it from any vantage point: it's fun to demonstrate in a functional way. (Airplane diagrams are so passe) and exciting for a shy person who would see something like this as an approachable way to get started.
I suggest a "bike school" shot of lane etiquette shot to resemble a school of geese.
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I suggest a "bike school" shot of lane etiquette shot to resemble a school of geese.
FORMATION!
06-27-06, 10:03 AM
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I would be down, plus learning the small circles as well for recovery when clipped in.
06-27-06, 10:29 AM
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Awesome.
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