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wearyourtruth 01-29-06 11:26 PM

purpose of offset seatstays?
 
seen on the FGG...

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006...aleWenthur.htm

is there a reason he would have built the frame like that? i've never seen anything like it before.

Moximitre 01-29-06 11:37 PM

Hot damn, Style like a mofo. Thats my guess.

That looks really cool though.

sr20det 01-29-06 11:39 PM

cause it looks badass.
Search it up, he explained why he did it.
He built up the frame himself, so mad props to him.

TN! 01-30-06 12:11 AM

i think he posted here a while back. if i recall correctly, he made that frame himself. looookks niiiice


edit: yes read up

brunning 01-30-06 12:21 AM

looks, looks and looks.

rvabiker 01-30-06 12:46 AM

It seems like it would do something to the integrity of the frame, at the very least making it very flexy. Any thoughts?

bostontrevor 01-30-06 12:46 AM

Superbee.

trons 01-30-06 12:48 AM

http://www.bikecult.com/works/archiv...uchiTTTK4.html

wearyourtruth 01-30-06 01:01 AM

i searched around before i posted (is that the answer to everything these days?) and i couldn't find anything... i did find that crazy yamaguchi though

Kellan 01-30-06 01:20 AM

wearyourtruth,

Here you go. Remembered the thread title.


http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=built

cmcenroe 01-30-06 01:40 AM

Still, that thread doesn't explain the rationale. I don't really get what looks so great about it, to me it just looks like he messed up or something and cut a tube too short.

summerinside 01-30-06 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by trons
[url]http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/04bicycles/yamaguchiTTTK4.html[/ur]

http://www.bikecult.com/works/archiv...chiTTTK4rs.JPG

HOLY POOP! that Yamaguchi's RAD :love:

Seriously, makes me think of this:
http://texasbestgrok.mu.nu/images/bv_141.jpg

r-dub 01-30-06 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by cmcenroe
Still, that thread doesn't explain the rationale. I don't really get what looks so great about it, to me it just looks like he messed up or something and cut a tube too short.

I think it's one of those Eye of the Beholder things. You see, you're not him. And you're not me. And you're in fact, not anyone but you. If he thinks it looks good, then that's the rationale. He didn't say, "I did this because cmcenroe thinks it looks good." Me, I'm indifferent to this particular aspect, but I like the fact that it's a little special, a little more unique.

skelly 01-30-06 02:05 AM

I love the bike, but I don't like the stays. Give me symmetry or give me death. But to each his own.

p3ntuprage 01-30-06 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by skelly
I love the bike, but I don't like the stays. Give me symmetry or give me death. But to each his own.

how do you cope with drive on only one side then?

fsnl
sparky

eddiebrannan 01-30-06 09:55 AM

i aksed him twice in that thread and he still didn't explain it :(

shants 01-30-06 10:01 AM

i don't know why people are so confused. it very obviously serves no functional purpose and is purely aesthetic. in a very slight technical sense, it might make for a weaker build, but i highly doubt that this would ever actually manifest itself. i have no doubt that such frames are structurally sound if made properly (quality welding/brazing, seatstay bridge, etc).

eddiebrannan 01-30-06 10:09 AM

seat stays have a direct effect on rear end rigidity, so stays of differing lengths, no matter how aesthetically pleasing (or otherwise), are going to affect bike handling, particularly under acceleration, i would have thought. maybe not though - i don't know.

either way if i was contemplating buying a bike with assymetric stays i would need to know that a team of rocket scientists had spent three years and $43456789076434567887543.65 on figuring out why it was that way.

zelah 01-30-06 10:22 AM

yeah i dont like it..

the locust 01-30-06 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by shants
i don't know why people are so confused. it very obviously serves no functional purpose and is purely aesthetic. in a very slight technical sense, it might make for a weaker build, but i highly doubt that this would ever actually manifest itself. i have no doubt that such frames are structurally sound if made properly (quality welding/brazing, seatstay bridge, etc).

shants wins the correctness prize.

and i weigh 130lbs so its not like i am going to be flexing it that much anyways. i just put 30mi on it on friday and its plenty stiff for me

shants 01-30-06 10:35 AM

i'm not debating whether it has effects, but i'm highly suspect that they would be particularly tangible. so long as each one of the stays can handle the maximum load that you can put on it, you're going to be fine. i don't think you would see differences in handling due to that construction. you won't actually be introducing any additional flex, so handling will still be determined by geometry (angles, wheelbase).

the locust 01-30-06 10:38 AM

BTW
http://static.flickr.com/22/93082885_fb9f294a48_b.jpg
check out my new frame jig, (pay no attention to the crappy fuji) minus the dropout spacer which i hadn't installed yet.
more frames are on the horizon.

MacG 01-30-06 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by the locust
check out my new frame jig...

I love the burn marks on your workbench. :)

Nice work on the jig!

mattman 01-30-06 04:59 PM

Unistrut is the stuff!!!!

p3ntuprage 01-30-06 05:04 PM

i never really thought about how to build a frame jig, but now i see that it all seems quite easy...

i *really* want to make me a frame now

fsnl
sparky


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