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Old 02-02-06, 01:36 PM
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Langsters galore

Been seeing a few Langsters popping up around New Brunswick, NJ. I have to say I like the way these bikes look (except for that box of a fork). Two things I have noticed on the ones I've seen around. 1. All these dudes have their saddles up really high. Is that something to do with the geometry of the bike? 2. The brake levers on these bikes look like crap. They just seem real flimsy compared to everything else on the bike.
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PS - Waiting for the 'Well just take the brakes off comment.' ; )
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Old 02-02-06, 01:39 PM
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sloping toptube maybe?
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The seat is only up too high if you can't reach the pedals.
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Old 02-02-06, 03:26 PM
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the brake levers are just fine. when it gets warmer i'll have one with bullhorns around NB sometimes
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the seat being so high IS due to the geometry. It's a compact frame using an upward sloping top tube, so in order to achieve the same saddle height as on a regular geometry frame, the seat post has to stick out of the frame more. This is similar (but opposite) to using a shorter seat post on a downward sloping top tube frame.
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Old 02-02-06, 05:37 PM
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I've only gotten to ride mine once, but I love the brake levers! They are squared off on the bottom, so I can get a much better grip on them while climbing out of the saddle.
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Old 02-02-06, 05:39 PM
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my dad gets his tommorow. i'm gonna ride it a few miles and i'll report back.
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Originally Posted by mrRed
my dad gets his tommorow.

cool my dad liked mine so much he had to get himself one
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I want langster pics!!!!!
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I like your furry little orange friend
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Old 02-03-06, 12:00 AM
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thats Fat Cat fixed in his own way
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Old 02-03-06, 01:14 AM
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What saddle comes stock with the langster, the website isn't very specific, so is seems that its just a generic one, or is something somewhat nice?
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Here's mine - not quite stock. It is great for riding around town and for longer rides, both in the flat lands and up in the hills. Geometry is not ideal for the velodrome - so I am building up a Rock Lobster for that

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005...sseMarkman.htm
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Old 02-03-06, 09:58 AM
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Note: If any plans on buying one of these things:
The geometry pretty much sucks for racing.
The sloping top tube makes it feel way too much like a road bike.
It's great for starting out fixed, but I just felt like I wasted my money, and should have gone for an IRO which has much better geometry and is within the same price range.
I see a ton of people riding them freewheel
Whats the point of buying a $700+ bike if your just going to ride a freewheel. For that price you may as well buy several old roadbikes and throw freewheels on-em.
I think I just hate Langsters.
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Grimlach,
Which IRO has "better geometry" for racing? What cat and types of races where you racing?
The Langster is the staple of Hellyer Velodrome's rental fleet...seems to work pretty well as a "racing bike"
What track(specs) did you find it was not suitable for racing?

PlantDude,
What gearing did you use at Hellyer? If you had your standard 75 as opposed to the rest of us at 82 or so, the gearing might have more to do with the ride than the frame...but I am not saying you should not hook up that RockLobster!!!!
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Old 02-03-06, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by .:Jimbo:.
What saddle comes stock with the langster, the website isn't very specific, so is seems that its just a generic one, or is something somewhat nice?
It's pretty generic. I replaced the one that came with my Langster (with a Selle Italia Flite Gel) because it was really uncomfortable.
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Old 02-03-06, 01:09 PM
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I didn' like the langster for a number of reasons.
First off it - there weren't any inserts in the track ends- which on an alminum frame- I feel makes a difference when you are consistantly re-tensioning your chain for different gear ratios. The ends got chewed up bottom____. Call it user error- but I don't think aluminum ends are a good idea on a track frame that you intend on racing.
Second- There are too many braze-ons

Personally I haven't owened an IRO but I know loads of people that have and ,do and swear by them.
As far as a frame or complete bike i'd say the Mark V- is a better value and has better geometry than the Langster.

I'd rather support a smaller company such as IRO. Than support specialized who doesn't really try to cater to track racing.

I never did race on the Langster that I owned I did ride it -fixed- for about four months- and pleased with it as a good beginner bike.

Lately I've been doing alleycats, and alot of racing at Prospect park. I'm no pro, nor do I pretend to be.

Hope I didn't offend all the Langster lovers out there. Grim
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Old 02-03-06, 01:21 PM
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Grim,

Thanks for the clarification..I am not a Langster lover..I actually passed on it(along with the IRO) due to the more road geometry than track specific. I was just wondering if you had raced it and had a "user experience" where it cost you in a race(wether it was confidence/twitchyness, etc)

Specialized is local to us here, and does support our track program.
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Old 02-03-06, 03:17 PM
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Personally, I never felt that confident on the Langster -streetwise- but thats mainly due to the geometry "sloping top tube"- that and the influx of inexperienced riders on Langsters in NYC.-

Hey thats great about Specialized supporting your local track scene " I'll take note of that"- I guess that also explains the rentals @ Hellyer Velodrome's.
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The Langster is also kinda heavy. Check the Pro. I've never weighed mine but it must be under 17 or 18lbs. Still roadish geometry but a really nice riding bike.
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i picked up a langster for $430 and love the thing, i'm not to excited about the fork though, ugly p.o.s. if you ask me but generally i love the thing. but wtf do i know the only other fixie i road was a fuji and that was a pretty sweet ride too.

note: its not a pro, and when i got the thing it only had the freewheel on it but still had a flipflop hub but my lbs had an extra 16t surly laying around so we threw it on there.
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Originally Posted by mattman
That looks like a plumber's bike! hahahahahahahahahahaah!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by fastbub
That looks like a plumber's bike! hahahahahahahahahahaah!!!!!!!!!
HAHA It is!!!!!
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Originally Posted by RETTWINS
2. The brake levers on these bikes look like crap. They just seem real flimsy compared to everything else on the bike.
-Jarrett
PS - Waiting for the 'Well just take the brakes off comment.' ; )
Yea, the brakes are pretty generic, tektro, I believe. It's an ok bike, but I have to admit, I had to make some upgrades to make mine more rider friendly. The mis-labeled "Body Geometry" saddle had to go and I'm using an SDG saddle. The front brake, I just used a BMX lever. Pedals, well, had to go with MKS. Oh, and lastly, that aluminum fork had to go. Swapped it with a bontrager to smooth out the front.
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