IRO and Scotland.
 

anyone else noticed a slight link? i know rob roy is a definite nod to the old country, and jamie roy is possibly a nod to an old scottish tune, also known as jamie rae (scots dialect, like the work of robert burns). and of course, angus is a scottish name. highlander....what more need i say? still haven't found much on what mark v could be...one of the first military tanks ever built is all i've found.

just wondered a) who else noticed and b) if there's a reason.

perhaps a non sequitir, but i'm buzzed/drunk and i don't care. the highland games in portland this year fall exactly on my birthday. st. patrick's day is fantastic and celebrates one aspect of my ancestry (and one i'm goddamn proud of), but it'll never be on my birthday.

yeah well occasionally my birthday is on thanksgiving so i get to celebrate our violent imperial history, wooohooo, but yeah i would venture that tony has some scots in him, either that or he really like the movies braveheart and trainspotting

Dunno about the Rob Roy or Jamie Roy, but the Mark V is named for his friend, Mark V.

are you supposed to pronounce it 'mark five' or 'mark vee'?

mark vee http://www.irocycle.com/id21.html

Mark's website:http://www.liq-o-rama.com/

i'm pretty sure the headbadge is modeled after his wife's family crest.

okay...i guess i didn't articulate well enough...the others are obvious, but the mark v...i thought perhaps an ancient king or something, but i found nothing...but if it's for his friend, that's the end of that question.

my town had the annual Robbie Burns party last week. I ate haggis and ogled hot men in kilts. There was some good music, too.

aw, right...i totally missed that. i didn't hear about anything in portland going on for that.

and i want a utili-kilt. hardcore.

That would kick so much ass.

Clan Keith and Clan Colqhoun in my family tree. Lang may yer lummer reek!

util kilts are dumb... I rock the sept tailor from the clan cameron tartan

there's clan macdonald in my blood, i forget which macdonald(there's like three clan macdonald's) but i know the crest is a gaunlet holding a cross, i was wearing a t-shirt of the old scottish flag in a bar once and this guy started talking to me about being scottish, his family was from the same clan macdonald, he gave me a hug and then brought me a few shots of scotch, can't complain about that

Get sportkilt (sportkilt.com). Pretty awesome for the money, considering real kilts are BIG $$. Sportkilt makes some cool tartan shorts too.

I think Utilikilts are gay.

EDIT: but I think hcongereeel is cool no matter what.

my ancestors were horse theifs from the lowlands.... I play in a pipe band so that makes up for it.....

kilts and tartans come from a completely fabricated background. back in the day an english buisnessman made up the kilt design, tartans and the history around them. because the english were infatuated with the highlands of scotland at the time, kilts became very fashionable in england. it was only *after* the kilt became fashionable in england that native scots started wearing them.

it's okay. my family did some other cool things in scotland, but the worst they did beats that. they were the spies who turned mary, queen of scots over to the english.

i know. mark of shame.

i like that famous scottish warrior colonel angus. anyone else familiar with the famous colonel angus? :D

Clan Macfarlane represent. The tartan thing may be "made up" a little bit, but it doesn't make me any less Scot. OF COURSE the English would do something like that...who WOULDN'T want to be scottish? We're so ****ing rad.

"kilts and tartans come from a completely fabricated background. back in the day an english buisnessman made up the kilt design, tartans and the history around them. because the english were infatuated with the highlands of scotland at the time, kilts became very fashionable in england. it was only *after* the kilt became fashionable in england that native scots started wearing them."
umm I cry bull **** about the kilt made up thing. The first little kilt was invented by an englishman cause the great kilts kept getting caught in the machines in his factories. You however can find pictures of scotts in Tartans from the Elizabethan period onwards, long before the english found the scotts endearing. Also the first tartan that was made up to represent something was the jacobite tartan in the 17 teens.

scots mercinaries in the army of Gustavus Adolphus circa 1631:

those are plaids, not kilts

What we think of as "the kilt" today was purportedly invented in 1725 by an Englishman. Thomas Rawlinson, owner of an iron works in Glengarie and Lochaber. This gentleman had a number of Highlanders in his employ and came to fancy the Highland way of dressing. However, the machinery and fires of the iron works posed a danger because of the Highlanders’ voluminous plaids. Rawlinson abbreviated the belted plaid, cutting off all material above the waist and further tailoring that below. What resulted is the skirt-like garment we know as the kilt today.

thats the little kilt (stitched in pleats and a seperate fly plaid) as opposed to the great kilt ( no stitched in pleats fly plaid is part of plaid), which was invented before the highland clearences (when kilts, plaids and tartan were baned except for highland regements), so Scotts were still wearing them before 1745. Kilts did not become fashionable in England till the Victorian age when Sir Walter Scot was writing and the highland clearences were lifted. There is still some evidence that some great kilts had pre stitched pleats.