Grave of the Fireflies is like Lars Von Trier for otakus. Blech.

I really liked Tokyo Godfathers and Jin Roh though. I haven't seen much anime, but I really love giving my one anime obsessed friend a lot of crap for it :D

hey shants, are classic films like emperor tomato ketchup, salo, pixote, deep end and varda's kung fu master lechy films, or are they exempt since they aren't animated?

what about Jungle Emperor Leo? :(

You would be even more cool if you made the stickers into spoke cards. Then used them to slash your wrists.

+1

i'd love to find some Project A Ko ones

this s#!t is getting stupid folks. seriously. the fact that you are jumping down the guys t'roat for having a "unique" idea is really hypocritical. arent some of you the first ones to say that building up a fixed gear machine about making it yours? and shouldnt originality reign supreme? its actually sorta gross how you guys are assuming a buncha stuff about the fellow for his tasteless choice. besides....im getting sick of seeing bikes where everything matches....the gotdamned rims, frame, bar tape, seat and msgr bag match....what up with that money?





besides....i want a project 2501 decal for myself natch.

this thread makes me love fugazidave, and want to ignore shants even more than i already do. or try to. it isn't easy.

:( :( :( :(

hahaha, mcatano referred to my new ride as a "sailer moon" bike, and it's just like yours basically, but in baby blue with sparkles

get a FLCL decal
that would be the ****

I'm kinda surprised so many know so much about this stuff
(whatever their motivation) ;)

to the OP: just make your own stickers:

http://www.4chan.org

go nuts.

Miyazaki pwns, i've seen every single "movie" he's made since i was 6

[QUOTE=shants]i'm extremely hesitant to call miyazaki's stuff "anime" in any sense other than that his work involves animation and is from japan. it is, indeed, very japanese, but it lacks many, if not most, of the features of standard anime. that is, it's far far different from **** like evangelion, ranma, sailor moon, etc. if you want to call miyazaki's stuff "anime," then i feel perfectly comfortable in exempting it from my condemnation. and, in any case, you certainly are /not/ an anime fan, proper, if you are only into the sort of stuff that miyazaki does - whether his films or his graphic work. you're still a nerd, probably, but not necessarily a lech.

first of all, you mentioned sailor moon in the presence of ranma and (gasp) evangellion (which i'm sure you 1) never watched all the way through, and 2) aren't smart enough to get anyhow) and that's just criminal.

second of all, what you see on network tv is not the depth and breadth of anime. saying anime is like saying "movies" anime is not a genre it's a form of media. there's really good anime and really dumb anime, just like there are really good movies and really bad movies.

third, i am a nerd, but you're in no position to judge from what i've seen.

+1 Canti headtube badge!

And to nitpick, Grave of the Fireflies WASN'T MIYAZAKI. It was directed by Isao Takahata.

foo

watching anime doesn't require any intellect, regardless of whether it has any other merits or not. sure, some have complex plots and involve some social commetary, but it doesn't take much to see it. your pretension is even stuffier than any generalizations that i might be making. please.

well, perhaps we're using the term differently. just to be sure, "anime" refers specifically to japanese animation. certainly there is plenty of room for variety when the terms are defined so loosely, but, in practice, the term "anime" is defined as, and refers to, a style of animation that emerged out of japan. it's not a "form of media" and is far less inclusive than the term "movie." indeed, there are many different genres of "anime," but they are all linked together by aesthetic and, in most cases, plot similarities. as with any style, there are examples that evince all of the major tropes and those that only display one or two.

if i am repulsed by the style, which i am, it is nevertheless still possible to be consistent and enjoy some of the outlier cases that are divergent from the crap that is the norm. the norm consisting of **** like gundam, robotech, ranma, evangelion, macross, akira, ghost in the shell, ah my goddess, la blue girl, urotsukidoji (or any of the hentai/ero ****), etc. i can watch a miyazaki movie from time to time and recommend them -- movies like my neighbor totoro and kiki's delivery service -- to people who have children and want family movies that aren't the standard crap.

i'm certainly a nerd in my own right, no doubt, but i cannot even begin to compare to anime fans. having worked in an independent video store known for its expansive selection of anime, i can say, by and large, that anime fans are some of the biggest losers that i've ever seen. of course there were some exceptions, but the "regulars" were all total and absolute ******bags. they're the same people who buy japanese porn magazines and photobooks from jlist. in the late 90s (well, more like early '00s), after the miyazaki stuff took off more in the states, we even moved his stuff out of the "anime" section and put it into the regular "animated" section because it rented better there and was the place where most people first looked. the anime section (like anime sections everywhere) consisted of a bunch of bad OVA (which is pretty much everything), the 80s boom movies, the **** that's been on american tv, a ton of hentai, and a few one-off movies that are respectable - like the aforementioned grave of the fireflies. notably, almost everyone who was an anime regular would pick up and rent the hentai **** on occasion. importantly, too, it wasn't as though they were just renting one of the classics for ****s and giggles, they were renting the new releases and more obscure titles.

fugazidave - ****, you're right. i knew that it was ghibli, but alas. it's been about 10 years since i've seen it. it was good. the live action japanese anti-war stuff is far better, though - the burmese harp, fires on the plain, or something newer like black rain (not the ridley scott crap).

this all said, there is no defense for the original poster wanting a decal of "the pinup anime babe leaning over a bicycle with big boobs. Preferably the purple haired chick from Evangelion" on his bicycle. sketch.

i'm not going to succeed in convincing anyone that they are a ******bag for liking what they do, but, i don't mind having anime fans dislike me. i'm better off for it.

there's some real oddball characters out there, to be sure. DC is hosting a big anime convention this weekend and it's gonna be a freaky scene down there - a real spectacle to behold (or run far away from)

http://www.marcon.org/ -- the scariest **** ever to hit columbus ohio. i will have to qualify on the anime kids, because the marcon people are worse.

well said shants, i was expecting you to just call me a dooche and be done with it. props on your thought and restraint. for the most part i agree with you. i just don't like the fact that you were boiling down an entire genre to what some american toadies are renting from a video store. i understand that that may be the definition of anime here tho.
i am not actually an "anime fan", but i have enjoyed a few things. manga is way better in most cases tho. even akira is crap comared to the manga, and what was done with ghost in the shell and appleseed is unforgivable but i'll spare you the nerd talk.

to sum up, the OP's decal of choice IS pretty gross.

Project A-Ko : Best movie ever. Superman's lesbian daughter battles aliens and girl crushes? Classic.

aw geez, 4chan

guy who posts here as "youth" is a mod

i would say watching 95% of any moving media doesn't require any intellect, regardless of whether it has any other merits or not. and blah blah blah, some have complex plots and involve some social commetary, but then again such a bold statement doesn't require much insight.


so to sum this up succinctly, "cartoonz r 4 kids"?

anyway, i have no beef with this discussion either way, but your stance doesn't necessarily require much more of an explanation than: adults who watch cartoons are "******bags". it also begs to be pointed out that credit was only extended towards ghibli films, wheras the significance of miyazaki's critical acceptance doesn't escape me. hell shants, even ghost in the shell was admitted to cannes. most of what you say just reeks of snobbery.

(i would also just like to call out your over-extension of the term "******bag". it should not be applied to your normal everyday pool of geeks, dweebs, nerds, goons, noobs or haxorz; but more spcifically to hipster kids with backwards hairdos, metrosexuals with zippered boots, artfags with hip tattoos and/or other persons who may fall loosely under the definition of "waste-oid".)

if we all just ignore this thread, it will go away.







starting now.