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Track Bikes and the Culture of Exclusion

Old 02-18-06, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by brunop
at the risk of repeatin' myself:
we all talk about how "skilled" and ***** ya have to be to be ridin' fixed and all--well ya know what? it ain't really that hard--skiddin', trackstands, skippin', etc. it's just ****in' NOT. as athletic skills go, i repeat, it's just NOT THAT HARD!! it's way fun fo' sho', WAY fun, but don't kid yerselfs that you're doin' anything extraordinary. it's just ridin' bikes. little kids do it every day fer chrissakes!
So you ride like a little kid?
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Old 02-18-06, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 46x17
So you ride like a little kid?
yeah.
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Old 02-18-06, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by marqueemoon


You will not see a scene like this in America until the oil runs out. Until then cycling will be a marginal activity enjoyed by people who are passionate about it. As good American consumers we will pimp out our bikes and hate on each other. It's how we express our individuality.
I like that pic ... in many many many ways
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If anyone is interested, there's an awesome book called "the rebel sell" about a lot of the things that are being discussed here. I am not a skilled enough writer to do it justice in a forum post summary, but it's about how people have filled most of their needs, and now we just compete for position in society, and end up screwing ourselves... for example, if a few people start using teeth whiteners, then people who previously had normal looking teeth now start to have dirty looking teeth, and everyone has to start buying tooth whiteners. How people basically pay, in one way or another, to keep people out of their position in society.

In the fixie/track bike scene it seems to be about paying a lot of money for an NJS bike, or paying with danger to your body by not using brakes, or a number of other things. All in all, a super super interesting read, especially for anyone who considers or has considered themselves part of a countercultural group...
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Originally Posted by senbot
If anyone is interested, there's an awesome book called "the rebel sell" about a lot of the things that are being discussed here. I am not a skilled enough writer to do it justice in a forum post summary, but it's about how people have filled most of their needs, and now we just compete for position in society, and end up screwing ourselves... for example, if a few people start using teeth whiteners, then people who previously had normal looking teeth now start to have dirty looking teeth, and everyone has to start buying tooth whiteners. How people basically pay, in one way or another, to keep people out of their position in society.
I liked that book better when it was called:
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OH! So Kogswell riders are the star-headtubed sneeches! Arrogant bastards!
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Originally Posted by 46x17
So you ride like a little kid?
I aspire some day to recapture the pure joy I experienced riding my bicycle when I was 8. I can come close sometimes, but it was easy then. It came naturally. Riding like a kid is a GOOD thing!
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Originally Posted by killsurfcity
my thoughts exactly!
How about today's seniors who ride fixed who listened to the MC-5 and early Stones in the 60s? They REALLY defined the current fixed-gear scene -- to say nothing of the interminable punk skate scenes.
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Originally Posted by mattface
I aspire some day to recapture the pure joy I experienced riding my bicycle when I was 8. I can come close sometimes, but it was easy then. It came naturally. Riding like a kid is a GOOD thing!
Sorry to hear you are not having as much fun as you use to have. I'll keep my fingers crossed that your stoke will return.
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Originally Posted by marqueemoon


You will not see a scene like this in America until the oil runs out. Until then cycling will be a marginal activity enjoyed by people who are passionate about it. As good American consumers we will pimp out our bikes and hate on each other. It's how we express our individuality.


Funnily enough, one place you will see a scene like this in the US is at Burning Man, where bikes are basically part of the survival kit. (fuzzy boots are optional) In the area around the central camp, there are commonly thousands of bikes clustered around. It's a really nice feeling.

Roaming in packs or individually, scorching across the playa.. ****ing amazing times. ..and you won't find any track bike elitism in a place where the dust EATS metal. I can't wait to build up a desert bomber SS for this year. NO MORE DUSTY DERAILLEURS!
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Old 02-20-06, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ink1373
I've been thinking about what has become of the "serious" fixed gear cyclist a lot lately, especially since the Skyy Yeager thread the other day. Riding fixed has always had a lot to do with exclusion.

Huh?

I don't ride fixed for exclusionary reasons.

I like the purity of connecting legs and wheels directly.
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Old 02-20-06, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Kogswell
Huh?

I don't ride fixed for exclusionary reasons.

I like the purity of connecting legs and wheels directly.


Exclusion is not just to fixed.

My first taste of exclusion was growing up riding BMX. Everyone in the neighborhood was riding the bling of the day (for example PK Rippers,Mongoose,Diamond Backs...). I was the only one not riding a double triangle frame. I had the first "BMX" bike Schwinn made, bacisally a krate frame with knobbies and bmx bars. I didn't care, the bike served its purpose. I either kept up or beat lots of em (the good old race you to the next stop sign race). Not to mention mine was the only one that wasn't stolen.

MT Biking has it too. I just drown out the sly comments when they see me roll up on my fully rigid Surly 1X1.

It all was good prep for commuting. Non cycling coworkers tend to be have more annoying comments than cyclist.

Just ride. Everyonce in while compete with others. Be it alleycats, trackstands, the most bling, or racing the the next stop sign or telephone pole. The key would be to have fun.
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Originally Posted by Matthew A Brown
BTW, touring is next.
Cruisers with Nexus hubs is the NEXT RAGE!
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So, NJS bike is the Alligator shirt of the Naughties?
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