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Ira in Chi 02-19-06 11:28 PM

I have recently become obsessed with these chunky, industrial looking bikes made by Eric Baar of Colorado Springs.

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...ck6dp6size.jpg

"The tools i now make just happen to have two wheels."

These bikes are a mix between utilitarian and post appocalyptic. This one, recently mentioned elsewhere on the forum, is copper-plated steel.


http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...0118.sized.jpg

Modeled after a se assassin bmx bike:

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...p173.sized.jpg

In action, pedaled by pro racer Joanne Kiesanowski:

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...Manchester.jpg

All of his bikes have amazing paint jobs.

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...7191_sized.jpg

I want one really bad. I think that if I ever get a custom track frame, it will be from this guy.

seely 02-19-06 11:31 PM

It looks like a mountain bike to me?

skanking biker 02-19-06 11:43 PM

[QUOTE=Ira in Chi][URL=http://www.groundupdesigns.com]I have recently become obsessed with these chunky, industrial looking bikes made by Eric Baar of Colorado Springs.[

In action, pedaled by pro racer Joanne Kiesanowski:

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...Manchester.jpg

QUOTE]

i am obsessing about those nice thighs

vomitron 02-19-06 11:50 PM

Yeah, I'm probably going to get a custom from this guy.

Amazing frames.

efarrar 02-20-06 12:08 AM

That site has some awesome pictures.

It makes me want to try my hand on a trials bike.

efarrar 02-20-06 12:22 AM

If I ever get a custom built track bike, everything will be all offset and jagged. Like in your third pic where the top tube runs longer than the down tube, and I also like this picture (from groundup) where the downtube is offset from the bottom bracket:

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...s/Img_3696.jpg

Sin-A-Matic 02-20-06 02:54 AM

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...ie/gud_002.jpg

I like this one.

Jamtastic 02-20-06 04:42 AM

for some reason industrial like bikes dont really do it for me. I respect the difficulty that goes into building them and the art and simplicity they represent. I even feel many of them are beautiful just not my style.

-=(8)=- 02-20-06 04:49 AM

Wow....this is nice stuff !
Hes got some unique ideas about rear tiangles !

gregg 02-20-06 08:07 AM

Eric makes some badass bikes. If I get a chance to have one built someday I would be so lucky

http://velospace.org/files/atthevelodrome.jpg
This is one of his own track bikes - copper plated madness

Ira in Chi 02-20-06 10:47 AM

Here is yet another of his great rides. This was on FGG a while back.

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...2/HPIM0084.jpg

More detail

I love the fact that none of his bikes are identical.

chicagoamdream 02-20-06 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Ira in Chi
Here is yet another of his great rides. This was on FGG a while back.

I like this one a lot. Very Lemond-inspired paint scheme, which is my favorite part of their bikes.

$0.00/Gal 02-20-06 10:50 AM

He's pretty genius

Jesse M 02-20-06 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Ira in Chi
Here is yet another of his great rides. This was on FGG a while back.

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...2/HPIM0084.jpg

More detail

I love the fact that none of his bikes are identical.

i'm not really into the chunky looking ones, but i love this one. the curved seat tube is hot.

genericbikedude 02-20-06 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Ira in Chi
Here is yet another of his great rides. This was on FGG a while back.

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...2/HPIM0084.jpg

More detail

I love the fact that none of his bikes are identical.

Ewww--that seattube is awful. Reminds me of the Alpha. Most of the bikes are nice tho

Ira in Chi 02-20-06 10:58 AM

Sliding dropouts are not uncommon on ss mtbs, but look how nice these ones look:

http://gallery.groundupdesigns.com/a...e/IMG_0028.jpg

lala 02-20-06 11:15 AM

My favorite is the daisy paint job SS mtb. You can thank Spectrum for the above paint jobs!

isotopesope 02-20-06 12:31 PM

both scott's light blue track bike and eric's copper plated one are sooo amazingly stiff, due to the square tubing used in the chainstays. they are incredible sprinting machines.

i also love how each bike he builds is so unique. i love his uncompromised creativity.

another thing i think is so cool about eric is that he loves and encourages people to help or just hang out during the build process of their frames. i appreciate the intimacy of that...

abe1x 02-20-06 01:56 PM

anyone have an idea how much he charges? we talking one grand? or two? or more?

fatbat 02-20-06 03:54 PM

Yup. I like the industrial-esque designs- about as far as you can get from the super-classic track bike look as possible.

I'd love to see one of those copper-plated bikes after a few years of use- i think the verdigris will look really excellent, but i wonder about the durability of the finish.

isotopesope 02-20-06 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by abe1x
anyone have an idea how much he charges? we talking one grand? or two? or more?

i'm not completely sure if he's changed his prices, but i believe a fillet brazed steel track frame and fork is around 1400. eric's forks are terrific. he'll do tig welded stuff too for much less. i believe his prices include the spectrum paintjob as well... as long as you're not doing anything too fancy.

ink1373 02-20-06 04:34 PM

can anyone comment on the durability of the copper plating?

oh god, and better yet, will it turn green as it ages?

isotopesope 02-20-06 04:42 PM

thus far, i think the copper is holding up really well and i don't think it was too expensive. this guy in denver did it for him and has done several of his own frames too. it should eventually turn green. i think watching the copper develop patina and age and change is what excited eric about the idea the most.

ink1373 02-20-06 04:44 PM

surely he isn't the first one to have done it though...there has to be an example of this thats already 20+ years old.

isotopesope 02-20-06 04:54 PM

i also highly doubt he's the first one to do it. aaron is the name of the guy who plated the frames... i know he did it at 'work', but i don't think he works specifically at a plating shop. i think he welds at a machine shop or a job shop. i think it's also more of a chemical reaction, than a plating process. i'll tell him and eric about this thread and see if we can get some direct answers, rather me trying to remember and speculate. :)


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