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03-06-06, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MKRG
I'm buying one of their albums on the way home from work today. The publicity worked. Just remind to put the sticker on the gas-pipe frame instead of the 853.
03-06-06, 01:24 PM
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I wanted to put a "This machine kills fascists" sticker on my bike.
03-06-06, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginetta
Im sorry, but to put that sticker on your bike and leave it in a public place is incredibly stupid, especially given the current agitated state everyone seems to be in.
His act may have not been malicious but come on, use your head.
His act may have not been malicious but come on, use your head.
03-06-06, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by skelly
I wanted to put a "This machine kills fascists" sticker on my bike.
03-06-06, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by skelly
"This machine kills fascists"
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03-06-06, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginetta
Ok so now we've gone from 'it's not a bomb because it says bomb on it' to 'it's not a bomb because its difficult to make a pipe bomb out of a bicycle'. Why would you need to weld anything? Make a bomb smaller than the diameter of the seat tube and drop it in the frame.
If we rip apart personal property on such little provocation, what stops me from putting a sticker on YOUR bike just for the fun of watching them rip it apart? What stops the cops from hosing down every record store with one of their albums? Martin makes a Woody Guthrie commemorative guitar that says "This Machine Kills Fascists" on it. I suppose there COULD be a bomb in there it's be way easier to drop a bomb in through the soundhole, than it would be to drop one in a seat tube. Sure would suck to have the cops firehose my new $3000 guitar. glad I didn't buy THAT one.
"But here, cleverly disguised as a bomb, is a bomb."
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03-06-06, 01:56 PM
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The kid should print some "This bike is not a pipe bomb" stickers. They are just as suspicious as ones saying that they are.
03-06-06, 01:56 PM
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I think there was an artist (or "artist") in NY who left boxes in the Union Street Station like they were bombs. Might've been about two years ago...?
Anyone remember this?
Anyone remember this?
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03-06-06, 02:01 PM
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Bullwinkle quote. You win!
03-06-06, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mattface
No we've always been at: "anyone who would come to the conclusion that a bicycle with a this bike is a pipebomb sticker on it is actually a bomb is an idiot" If you have a bomb small enough to drop down a bicycle seat tube, you can conceal it anywhere you want to, so WHY oh WHY would you put it in a bike with a this bike is a pipebomb sticker on it?
If we rip apart personal property on such little provocation, what stops me from putting a sticker on YOUR bike just for the fun of watching them rip it apart? What stops the cops from hosing down every record store with one of their albums? Martin makes a Woody Guthrie commemorative guitar that says "This Machine Kills Fascists" on it. I suppose there COULD be a bomb in there it's be way easier to drop a bomb in through the soundhole, than it would be to drop one in a seat tube. Sure would suck to have the cops firehose my new $3000 guitar. glad I didn't buy THAT one.
"But here, cleverly disguised as a bomb, is a bomb."
-Bullwinkle Moose
If we rip apart personal property on such little provocation, what stops me from putting a sticker on YOUR bike just for the fun of watching them rip it apart? What stops the cops from hosing down every record store with one of their albums? Martin makes a Woody Guthrie commemorative guitar that says "This Machine Kills Fascists" on it. I suppose there COULD be a bomb in there it's be way easier to drop a bomb in through the soundhole, than it would be to drop one in a seat tube. Sure would suck to have the cops firehose my new $3000 guitar. glad I didn't buy THAT one.
"But here, cleverly disguised as a bomb, is a bomb."
-Bullwinkle Moose
As for your guitar argument, I would say there is quite a difference between a guitar that says 'this machine kills fascists' and is a type of a political statement and a bike that is made out of metal pipes that has 'this is a pipe bomb'.
Like a previous poster said, the stickers were designed to provoke, which they did. If you are going to put something like that on your bike and leave it out in the middle of the open you should be prepared for the reactions of others whether they are favorable or not.
03-06-06, 02:11 PM
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It was a conspiracy implemented by Lee Iacocca.
03-06-06, 02:15 PM
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an "incident"
03-06-06, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by efarrar
If I lived there here is what I would do:
1) Order 400 "this bike is a pipe bomb" stickers
2) walk around campus putting them on bikes
1) Order 400 "this bike is a pipe bomb" stickers
2) walk around campus putting them on bikes
And drop a pipebomb down some seat tubes for good measure, but not on all, just some. That way we can keep the cops guessing. They don't even have to be real bombs, use your imagination: reasonable facsimile and whatnot.
03-06-06, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginetta
However, I would rather have his bike cut up and have nothing else happen then to have the 1 in a million chance that there WAS something in the bike and have it blow up and kill someone.
Police have to show probable cause to search personal property. A one in a million chance is improbable. I am not saying police should not respond to threats, but there must be some minimum standard for establishing that something is a threat, and I don't think that bumper sticker is it.
03-06-06, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bmxdan
ok so after thinking about it for a little while sure, the bike could be thought of as a bomb because of the sticker.
Those people who know its a band would think "ha, thats funny, what if this bike really was a pipe bomb, but i know that is a band name, but its better putting that sticker on a bike than a flower pot" and go on our way.
Those people who do not know its a band would think "ha, that is funny, wait... this bike might actually be a pipe bomb because why would anyone put a sticker saying that on an actual bike?!?!!!!!!" and they panic and call the cops.
SO, since there was no one on the bomb squad that knew This Bike is a Pipebomb is a band they ripped it apart. that is understandable.
But don't charge the kid. The cops should be like "well we thought it was a pipebomb, followed procedure and whoops, we f***** up, haha oh well, here is a new bike kid, my bad"
see that way everyone wins, the public is safe from possible exploding bicycles, the bike owner gets a new bike, and the cops are laughed at, which is what cops are for anyway.
Those people who know its a band would think "ha, thats funny, what if this bike really was a pipe bomb, but i know that is a band name, but its better putting that sticker on a bike than a flower pot" and go on our way.
Those people who do not know its a band would think "ha, that is funny, wait... this bike might actually be a pipe bomb because why would anyone put a sticker saying that on an actual bike?!?!!!!!!" and they panic and call the cops.
SO, since there was no one on the bomb squad that knew This Bike is a Pipebomb is a band they ripped it apart. that is understandable.
But don't charge the kid. The cops should be like "well we thought it was a pipebomb, followed procedure and whoops, we f***** up, haha oh well, here is a new bike kid, my bad"
see that way everyone wins, the public is safe from possible exploding bicycles, the bike owner gets a new bike, and the cops are laughed at, which is what cops are for anyway.
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03-06-06, 02:50 PM
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people are too f***kin paranoid... they need to chill the f*** out and take a deep breath and think of a happy thought.
When I watch the news and hear of things like this, I'm just wondering when we're gonna look back and think "WOW! why didn't we see that coming?" but of course, this will be when we have no more sense of humor and live in a constant state of lockdown... even more than now.
"And wow! Hey! What's this thing coming towards me very fast? Very very fast. So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding word like... ow... ound... round... ground! That's it! That's a good name -ground!
I wonder if it will be friends with me?" -Douglas Adams
When I watch the news and hear of things like this, I'm just wondering when we're gonna look back and think "WOW! why didn't we see that coming?" but of course, this will be when we have no more sense of humor and live in a constant state of lockdown... even more than now.
"And wow! Hey! What's this thing coming towards me very fast? Very very fast. So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding word like... ow... ound... round... ground! That's it! That's a good name -ground!
I wonder if it will be friends with me?" -Douglas Adams
03-06-06, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mattface
If ANY bike could contain a pipebomb, and we agree that most bombers are unlikely to label their bombs, then logically it is more likely that every bike without a bomb sticker on it actually has a bomb. If we should have the cops destroy stuff on a one in a million chance that there is a bomb there we'll run out of stuff fast.
Police have to show probable cause to search personal property. A one in a million chance is improbable. I am not saying police should not respond to threats, but there must be some minimum standard for establishing that something is a threat, and I don't think that bumper sticker is it.
Police have to show probable cause to search personal property. A one in a million chance is improbable. I am not saying police should not respond to threats, but there must be some minimum standard for establishing that something is a threat, and I don't think that bumper sticker is it.
03-06-06, 03:02 PM
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doug adams good, bullwinkle better
several years ago (maybe 2 years after oklahoma city) there was an art student on my campus that rented a ryder truck, parked it in front of an administration building, and in black tape spelled out "Not A Bomb" on the side. Hilarity ensued.
several years ago (maybe 2 years after oklahoma city) there was an art student on my campus that rented a ryder truck, parked it in front of an administration building, and in black tape spelled out "Not A Bomb" on the side. Hilarity ensued.
03-06-06, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bandregg
Your fear doesn't make me a criminal.
03-06-06, 05:21 PM
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#$%* that. If I lived there, I would print out
"This SUV is a pipe bomb"
stickers and plant them on every hummer and tahoe with a college age kid in it,call the cops on each one, and make damn sure their parents got the bill for city services.
"This SUV is a pipe bomb"
stickers and plant them on every hummer and tahoe with a college age kid in it,call the cops on each one, and make damn sure their parents got the bill for city services.
03-06-06, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose R
Define "terrorists" please.
Define "please"
03-06-06, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by koyman
Originally Posted by ben franklin
Those who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security.
03-06-06, 05:42 PM
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The thread is here: https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-safety/178098-choose-your-stickers-carefully.html
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