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Copper plate and other alternative finishes

Old 04-04-06, 11:28 AM
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How prevelant are Electroless Nickel platers(do you know of any that do bikes)? Any idea how much a frame/fork would be?
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Originally Posted by isotopesope
i'd really like to try gun blueing (sp?) on a steel frame.
Me too.
Did you see the FGG bike with the over heated steel tubes? I'd expect it to look like that, but not subject to premature fatuige.
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Old 04-04-06, 12:31 PM
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actually, there are lots of interesting gun finishes - green parkerizing from some US WWII firearms, glock's tennifer and beretta's burnition (sp?)among others... all of them are thin rust-resistant (some HIGHLY rust-resistant) coatings for steel.

a parkerized frame would be badass.
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Old 04-04-06, 06:23 PM
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Over one hundred years ago some European gun makers offered a finish called slow rust browning.
I have tried to find a description of the process on the internet, but the links lead to chemical processes.

Slow rust browning requires a cool, humid room, and vigorously wiping every bit of the steel's surface with a clean, damp, lightly-oiled cloth twice a day, without fail.
One day without wiping and the steel might rust and pit.

The steel will gradually darken, perhaps first going through a straw-colored phase.
It may stop at brown or go on to a dark grey.
Once the color-change stops, the steel will have substantial resistance to rusting and pitting.

One often sees this finish unintentionally created on steel farm tools that get handled daily in cool, humid environments.
The steel turns dark grey or brown, but it doesn't rust where frequently touched by human hands.

This process takes about two weeks of patience and diligence, but it works and, with an occasional rub down with a lightly-oiled cloth, will protect the steel from everything except neglect.

For an environmentally friendly and aesthetically-pleasing oil, consider Camellia oil, made from the plant of the same name.

Camellia oil is a favorite traditional tool treatment among both samurai and woodworkers, used both for preventing corrosion and for easing chisels and knives through their work. Light and odorless, the oil is non-staining and doesn't affect glue-up. Use a light wipe on all your steel tools to keep them clean & shiny.


For that matter, a person could leave a bike frame in its raw metal state and wipe it down once or twice a week with Camellia oil, and just see what happens.
The steel shouldn't rust if regularly and carefully wiped down with Camellia oil.
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Originally Posted by wangster
cheaper way to speed up the patina process is to just piss on it... really... it works... long story, but it works. The question is do you really want to piss on your bike?
So many times on this forum, I scroll and scroll, and hope to hel that no one has beaten me to saying something clever...

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