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Battle Of The Giant Bags

Old 04-20-06, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sers
I'm looking for a bag to haul some serious ****, not for an english muffin.
Oh it can definitely hold a lot more than an english muffin, my friend. At least 3 of them. ha!
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Originally Posted by 12XU
Sash, do you realize you can increase your beer storage space almost twice as much if you take the beers out of the package? I easily fit 24 bottles in my Metropolis, although one cap twisted off a bottle on the bottom of the pile from some weird force. I guess it'd be more prudent to go for non-twist off bottles in the future...
Oh, I know, it's just an easy metric to use, since everyone knows what a sixpack looks like... I still think the Chrome's layout is just weird -- too tall and skinny for me.
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I've tried pretty much every commercially available "messenger" backpack other than the Chrome stuff, and I give them a pretty damn good test. 10 hours a day, 5 days a week for work, with lots of weight, oversized packages and volume. Then I carry around pressurized gas tanks in the bags on the weekends, which is probably the main cause of all the straps falling of my bags. Here's my feelings in brief:

REload Backpack: This bag was pretty big, and did me pretty well, but the design and quality of construction seemed a bit lacking. Straps fell off. Also, once the bag breaks in, everything inside has a tendency to fall out. The design seems to be lacking in many ways as far as that goes. This sack also felt like a wet dog draped on my back when it rained, and didn't breathe at all in the summer. Still one of the best I've tried, and I could fit 2 copy boxes on my back (1 in the bag, 1 strapped on with the flap straps).

REload Midpack: This bag was awesome in most every way, but it was just too damn small. All the design issues of the backpack go away when you shrink the whole package I guess. I still had a few issues with the quality of workmanship, I had one of the main straps seperate from the bag at the top, but I was able to have a friend re-sew that one spot and the bag was fine until I sold it. The guy who has it now seems to be having no problems, but he's not a messenger, and definately not putting the amount of crap in the bag I was. I could fit a copy box strapped on, but if I had a bunch of envelopes and a tube or two, the thing was busting at the seams and I had to start tying things down with bungee cords. Still a good bag though!

Baileyworks ProPack: This bag is great except for a few things.

1) You can't get them anymore.
2) They aren't shaped in a very good way for large volume loads. The bag is just too thin.
3) You can't get them anymore.

I'd probably still be riding with mine if it hadn't fallen to pieces, and then you wouldn't be getting this review. Plus....you can't get them anymore.

Ortlieb: I've never given these things a very thorough test, as I've never owned one, but I have worked with one on occasion. They seem good in a lot of ways. Metal hardware that can be replaced by going to a hardware store instead of a seamstress when something breaks = thumbs way up. These things have a very set capacity though, and you can't really strap stuff onto the bag, which is how I carry most of the big stuff I get. The bags also don't breathe whatsoever, and you create a swamp like atmosphere for your back in the heat. Ewww. I don't think there's anyway to get a copybox in/on one of these without using rope or a bungee cord or something.

Timbuk2 backpack thing: This bag started falling apart on me within a week of working with it. Just low quality stuff. End of story.

Push The Envelope backpack: I think they may call this bag the MegaCIty bag, I'm not sure. My bag is a prototype, so I don't want to rag on it too hard, as it isn't a set in stone design, but this thing really doesn't work out. The bag is a backpack that works like a messenger bag. It's really difficult to take off, but you can swing it around by unclipping one side of a chest strap, and you can then get into the bag since it buckles on the side. It's hard to explain, but the bag is really like a burrito. A burrito that swing around on a strap across your chest. My biggest beefs with this bag were that you truly had to CLIMB out of the bag to get it off, not an easy task when it has a 50lb roll in it, and that it's such a weird shape you spend 10 minutes trying to figure out how to load your stuff into it properly. The workmanship seems top notch, some of the best graphics work (applique style I think, I don't know, it's not embroidery) and the customer service was second to none, but the bag design is kinda whack. Thats why it's a prototype though! I still need to send them a detailed report on what I didn't like about the bag, and maybe they'll be fixing this stuff in the future. I did once fit 2 copy boxes IN the bag, someting I haven't been able to do with any other bag except.....

Freight Baggage L Backpack: This is my current workhorse, and it's treating me SO well. It's blatantly obvious that the designer knew what a messenger with my workload needs, and understood why some of the feature son other bags just get in the way. Straps that stash away in velcro flaps when not in use, but not 12 seperate pockets that everything gets caught on. Actually usable compression straps. HUGE capacity, but comrpesses down to feel great even when it's empty. The side flaps on the sides of the main flap are so amazingly simple, and do a better job than any other bag I've ever used of keeping the water out. The flap straps being attached to the flap rather than the base is another little detail that makes a world of difference. This bag really is awesome, and I highly recommend Travis's work.

I haven't tried the Chrome backpack line, as I've never liked that company's aesthetics very much, and the bags just seemed a bit ill suited to my needs, but they seem to hold up pretty well to the daily abuse of other guys out there. Maybe someday if my FB gets lit on fire or something.
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Old 04-20-06, 07:03 PM
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Old 04-20-06, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobs
Freight Baggage L Backpack: This is my current workhorse, and it's treating me SO well. It's blatantly obvious that the designer knew what a messenger with my workload needs, and understood why some of the feature son other bags just get in the way. Straps that stash away in velcro flaps when not in use, but not 12 seperate pockets that everything gets caught on. Actually usable compression straps. HUGE capacity, but comrpesses down to feel great even when it's empty. The side flaps on the sides of the main flap are so amazingly simple, and do a better job than any other bag I've ever used of keeping the water out. The flap straps being attached to the flap rather than the base is another little detail that makes a world of difference. This bag really is awesome, and I highly recommend Travis's work.
I've only checked one out up close very briefly, but every single time I see one of the Freight Baggage backpacks riding by in SF, I admire those side flaps - such a great idea.
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Old 04-20-06, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobs
when it has a 50lb roll in it
I gotcha email the other day btw, but it got lost in the shuffle thinking we'd be writing with encouraging stuff soon (back then). If you're looking to try another one down the road shoot me another email and I'll keep it on file. We've been in design on that for well over a year and figure another 3-4 months, but I didn't intend to ignore you, my bad.
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Old 04-20-06, 09:11 PM
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biggest chrome bag will hold a 50lb box of copy paper with the flap closed and cinched, ive got one of the orange ones leftover from that NYC company that went out of business(cosmo), its 3300 cu inches

U know what, it aint big enough

my next bag will be custom from chrome too, I dont care if they charge me double either, its well worth it

working all day hauling big piles of paper plus groceries sucks if you dont like your bag or your bike

Ive put up pics of mine before, I will have to see if I can find the last one, it had 9 two liter bottles in it, and you could still add more and shut the flap.
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Old 04-20-06, 09:30 PM
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Here is some info on what my Chrome Ivan holds:

I'm out of beer (tragic, I know) and my cats are nowhere to be found, but here is my cat food container. It holds about 8lbs and is almost the same witdh, depth and height as two normal sized six packs of bottles (I measured using Lagunitas IPA bottles). I can fit it all the way into the main compartment and roll the top all the way down. Since the bag is tall rather than wide like a messenger bag, a nice 750ml bottle of my favorite scotch will slide pretty easily down the side, plus a little room for a sandwich (I try to not drink two sixers and a bottle of scotch with nothing in my stomach). The front zippered pocket is somewhat affected by the load in the main compartment, so my Powerbook, notebook, and Sennheisers are fairly snug in there, but overall still pretty accessible. The front two pockets aren't affected, and my wallet/keys/phone/small junk in one and coffee cup/multi-tool/wrench/spare change all fit fine as well.

the main load:


inside, from the top:


sealed up:


on my back:
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Old 04-20-06, 09:54 PM
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I love all of thes pictures of filled bags with assorted stuff but I'm surprised that the site below wasn't mentioned yet. Beer can capacity seems to be the ultimate measment standard.

www.velospace.org/6pc
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Old 04-20-06, 11:15 PM
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OK, here's my bag. I didn't have six packs or 40s, but I have a lot of wine. Mine holds 14 750ml bottles of wine plus 4 375ml bottles with ample room to close the flap.

more capacity pics

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Old 04-20-06, 11:38 PM
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A good trick for those of you who must use stealth when transporting large volumes of alcohol in glass containers (well this is only good for 12 oz bottles) but putting them in socks, no clinking.
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Old 04-20-06, 11:39 PM
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oh, freight bags. i might talk to the guy about getting one...apparently they're made here and i have a friend who sort of knows the guy.
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Old 04-20-06, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobs
Freight Baggage L backpack held 3 file boxes for me the other day, two inside, one strapped on with compression straps. I've tried all the backpacks, and this one kills it.

https://www.freightbaggage.com
hey man, can you post a picture of your freight backpack? i want to get a feel for the size before i drop 200+ bones.
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Old 04-21-06, 01:38 AM
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yeah. i've been trying to find info on freight baggage for a little over a week now (thanks for whoever posted the website, google came up enpty). i'd appreciate any pics/more reviews if possible, eps the backpack.
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Originally Posted by FlippingHades
OK, here's my bag. I didn't have six packs or 40s, but I have a lot of wine. Mine holds 14 750ml bottles of wine plus 4 375ml bottles with ample room to close the flap.

more capacity pics

YES!! finally a fellow wino!! YES!!! why do people even mess with beer when there is wine in the world? RED wine i mean!! YES!!!! best bag pics EVER!!

thanks flippin'!!
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For reference, 13.1 Adorable Kitties = 13.7 6 packs. As for bags, my ReLoad Deluxe is pretty fricking huge. i managed to carry 2 X-large framed movie posters, 2 large framed photos, 3 medium framed pictures and 5 small framed photos on one job. The only beef was I kept getting clocked in the back of the head. Only beef is that I like the Chrome adjustment system better but the reload with an X looks fantastic.
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Originally Posted by HexagonSun
yeah. i've been trying to find info on freight baggage for a little over a week now (thanks for whoever posted the website, google came up enpty). i'd appreciate any pics/more reviews if possible, eps the backpack.
jim-bob has a Freight backpack and likes it a lot.

The best way to get in touch with Travis about bags is to call him - I think his email access is spotty and he spends most of his time in a workshop, sewing. Here is a brochure he emailed me a few months ago... I'm not sure if the prices are still valid or not, but it might give you a good sense of the size of some of the bags and the options that are available:




They're great bags, and Travis is a solid guy.

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Originally Posted by chimblysweep
i heart my under the weather - it's freaking huge and unbelievably perfect.
i bought a seatbelt on ebay and they put it in the strap for me.
it's crazy stable.
and they custom stitch - bonus.

the PAC's supposed to be awesome but the X strap sucks for girls.
Yeah, I love my gigantic PAC, but I had to have it modified for the boob factor. Amazing, considering they're made be a woman.

I've tried on the largest UTW bag, but not with a weighted load. It felt like it would be pretty comfy, though, and it's huge.
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If you want a Pac, be willing to wait. Im on month 6.
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Originally Posted by brunop
YES!! finally a fellow wino!! YES!!! why do people even mess with beer when there is wine in the world? RED wine i mean!! YES!!!! best bag pics EVER!!

thanks flippin'!!
Red bag, red wine. W00t.
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thanks sashae and FH and joshr and luckycat and jacobs!
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Originally Posted by ColinT
If you want a Pac, be willing to wait. Im on month 6.
Or buy one from their clearance section or sale page.

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I have the same Chrome Metropolis as Sashae. It has held up for a good 4-5 years now. I picked up a mini mess from reload, which I like so far for smaller stuff. Got all the goods of a larger bag, just smaller.
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Originally Posted by cityraincityst
All of these bags look f-in' sweet but I'm still going to have to go with the Bailey Works Super Pro. I've got an X Large and haven't had any troubles with loads. The strap mech. is also very sweet... easy tightening and loosening on the fly and the shoulder pad is really comfortable too. I also like that fact that when its empty it lies really flat up against your back instead of stickin' out all willy-nilly all over the place like other bags that will remain nameless (timbuk2). I also like that fact that it has so many compartments... its like an adventure everytime you look inside... always finding new places, little nooks and cranies that you didn't think existed before. Um... yeah... my friend has a Large bag and fit 10 lbs of ice in it along with 30 20oz PBRs... I dunno. It looked impressive. Alright... now I'm just rambling.
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I've got a large. Went by the specs on the site,and wound up with a bag too big for daily use. But I kept it for fetching groceries and hauling stuff to parties. For the Pirates' New Years party,I had a 12 pack of cans,6 pack of bottles,big bottle 'o rum,small bunt cake,and various other munchies including chips,which didn't even get crushed bad. The strap is super easy to use,very well padded,and completely ambi. The bike rides well on your back and stays put. I would've gotten a second one in medium,but they've upped their prices alot.
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Push the Envelope Bags are similarly sized messenger bags to what's already here, but the harness/buckling system really is amazing. Keeps the load stable and more weight is taken through the buckles than through our weak little shoulders (OK, my weak little shoulders).

Check this link out:
https://www.pushtheenvelope.com/products/classic.html
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