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Old 05-01-06, 06:49 AM
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Clipless- shoes and pedals

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So my old pedals **** the bed and my shoes are too small and uncomfortable now. Time to upgrade. Any advice in these two areas? I've been looking at pedals and I really like the sound of the Egg Beaters. Has anyone had any problems with these? Next. What's the most comfortable shoe? I think that's it. Do your magic.
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Get the eggbeaters. They are great pedals. I have them on all my bikes. I would recommend getting mtb shoes so that you don't get too much crunch when you walk in them. Sidi make some great shoes, but can cost alot. Go to your lbs and try a few different brands on. Nashbar also always has combo deals with eggbeaters and shoes together. I think they may even have a sale going on right now.
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Shoes are personal. Pedals are more religious than personal (in my opinion).

Currently rocking Nashbar SPD cheapies and Shimano SH-MA80's
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I was in my adidas hammers all day, yesterday. More walking than riding. They were comfortable all day long...
 
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If I had $100 I could rationalize spending right now...
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I for one hate eggbeaters there is no positive feedback at the end of the float so I at least disengage without realizing it. I ride on ancient spds and have never pulled out of them as long as my cleats are new.

As far as shoes go my experience is generally that you get what you pay for. My orginal dominators were amazing shoes(although I dislike lorica) and were followed by a string of cheapo shoes that all just sucked. The diadora picantes I use now are a nice compromise between price and quality I think. However, they look like they will last nowhere near as long as the dominators did so maybe they really aren't such a good value if you can afford the dominators.
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i like eggbeaters. i don't know why anybody wears non-bmx bike shoes. ever.
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because most of them have comparitively soft soles and none of them keep your foot in as well as nice MTB shoes.
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Originally Posted by dutret
because most of them have comparitively soft soles.
for road rides, it seems like the hardness of the soles shouldn't matter. for commuting, soft soles help mitigate the harshness of stiff soles while walking. mtb shoes for mountain biking- that makes sense to me.

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and none of them keep your foot in as well as nice MTB shoes
in the pedals? in the shoes? really?
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Originally Posted by onceinalifetime
in the pedals? in the shoes? really?
BMX-style shoes, what with their primitive lacing systems and excessively padded uppers, don't hold your feet as securely as MTB or road-style shoes with their ratcheting closure devices and multiple velcro fasteners. It's a fact.
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Originally Posted by dutret
I for one hate eggbeaters there is no positive feedback at the end of the float so I at least disengage without realizing it. I ride on ancient spds and have never pulled out of them as long as my cleats are new.
you have to turn pretty far out to disengage, if you're moving your feet that far side-to-side just while riding then that's your problem, not the pedals
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my Answer MTB shoes are very comfy... 130$ combo with Eggbeater STAINLESS STEEL (not C Chrome) pedals... great deal from Nashbar--greatest bike etailer
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Eggbeaters are designed to have more 'float' than SPDs, so that's a love/hate thing. I personally dig 'em, but I come from MTB so that's a bias. I also love how spare and clean they look, so that's a personal taste / design thing.
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lakecycling.com $100, $75 (probably cheaper, that's MSRP)

Don't seem to make non-leather shoes : /

as for pedals, I like Look and Time. Wouldn't go with welgo
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If you go with eggbeaters, spring for the "SL" version over the "C." They hold up a lot better from what I've seen.
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Originally Posted by morbot
you have to turn pretty far out to disengage, if you're moving your feet that far side-to-side just while riding then that's your problem, not the pedals
further evidence that there is no clipless system that's right for everyone. it may be "your problem, not the pedals", but more likely a problem of "you and your pedals not matching".

of course, you should be able to adjust things more.
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thanks for all of the tips guys. Just one more question: In terms of waterproof"ness" what would you say is the best from your experiences?
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Originally Posted by cityraincityst
thanks for all of the tips guys. Just one more question: In terms of waterproof"ness" what would you say is the best from your experiences?
nothing but winter shoes are waterproof-ny


my suggestion for any shoe is the top strap must be buckle'n'strap...cuz all
velcro will get weak pretty fast and buckles prevent the shoe from ever
getting lazy on you. one or two clicks 5 miles into a ride whambam maximum haulage
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I'm totally getting a pair of SIDI Avalanche for next winter

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those should only be worn with all black, a bullet belt, and wrist-to-elbow gauntlets with 5-inch spikes.
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My Candy SL eggbeaters have been failing me as of late as I've been unintentionally disengaging recently. Maybe it's time for new cleats because I don't think the spring could've worn out after only about 1,000 miles...
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I'm totally getting a pair of SIDI Avalanche for next winter

They're mine. But I refuse to ride in anything more than tube socks and boxer-briefs with them on.
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Originally Posted by morbot
you have to turn pretty far out to disengage, if you're moving your feet that far side-to-side just while riding then that's your problem, not the pedals
I've ridden Time ATAC, Shimano Ultegra, Shimano SPD DX, and Eggbeater clipless pedals and I agree with dutret that you can't feel when you are at the end of the float (no matter which float option you choose 15 or 20 degrees) like you can with the afforementioned.

That being said, when riding it's a bit unnerving to try to set up on the outer edge of the float for fear of clipping out, which is the purpose of having float in the first place to "move your feet that far side-to-side just while riding". I would assume that dutret would just like to feel when he's on the edge before he clips out.

That being said, I'm riding eggbeaters now because I couldn't find the original Time ATACs that are my favorite.
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ugh. use the term "float" correctly, dammit!

the 15/20 degrees for eggbeaters is the release angle
they have a fixed float of 6 degrees
after 6 degrees you should start to feel resistance.
at 15/20 degrees you release

simple, no?
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