any elegant solution for front brake on track bike?
07-05-06, 01:49 PM
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any elegant solution for front brake on track bike?
I'm planning a 2 day, 200 hundred mile trip for the end of the summer with my casati and would really like to have a brake up front.
I know this has been discussed recently, but I haven't been able to find any great info about temporary front brake mounts.
Drilling the fork isn't a option, and I'm not too keen on the idea of buying a new fork just so I can mount a brake. Also, the rear "keirin brake" found on the gold nagasawa just seems so clumsy.
I know I've seen pictures of temporary front brakes that mount on the fork arms... if anyone has any idea where to order one of these or has some input on how to fabricate something myself it would be a great help. Even a picture would be a start.
I know this has been discussed recently, but I haven't been able to find any great info about temporary front brake mounts.
Drilling the fork isn't a option, and I'm not too keen on the idea of buying a new fork just so I can mount a brake. Also, the rear "keirin brake" found on the gold nagasawa just seems so clumsy.
I know I've seen pictures of temporary front brakes that mount on the fork arms... if anyone has any idea where to order one of these or has some input on how to fabricate something myself it would be a great help. Even a picture would be a start.
07-05-06, 01:55 PM
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The front brakes you're thinking of are keirin brakes as well, but they are much harder to find. I think a cheap-o 700c road fork would be your best option. Check out the one on close-out from Spicer cycles: https://www.spicercycles.com/index.cg...esc=Close-outs
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I did a similar trip to you on my (former) pogliaghi a few months ago in Italy and twe is right. Best option is to swap the fork for a drilled one and run it that way. Your track fork wasn't meant to withstand braking stresses and I fell like the mountable ones will screw with your paint job. Bike works ships fast and offers a great fork. If you want more info pm me.
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Ah, this again. Go with a road fork. There ARE other options (not-to-be-found keirin brake, clamp-on cantilever mounts from the UK, the search for a 700c road wheel with a disc brake hub), but the drilled fork is the one you'll end up with.
07-05-06, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gregg
The road fork may also give you a bit more rake/wheelbase length to make the long ride easier to bear
thanks for all the input everyone. i don't love the idea of throwing a road fork on, but it would simplify a lot of things.
i'm not giving up on this though. i think i'll mess around with some sheet metal tonight and see if i can't come up with a simple little mount.
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i agree with the road fork idea, plus, the keirin brakes arent sturdy enough for long rides
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just make sure you raise your stem a bike with the road fork.
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Another vote for swapping the fork out.
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presumably you want this brake to deal with hills, so I would steer clear of ghetto jingusness (and I'm normally a big fan of ghetto jingusness). Brake mounts need to be stout, I think you're going to have a tough time rigging something that is reliable and doesn't risk paint dingage.
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Originally Posted by chicagoamdream
There ARE other options (not-to-be-found keirin brake, clamp-on cantilever mounts from the UK, the search for a 700c road wheel with a disc brake hub), but the drilled fork is the one you'll end up with.
Yeah, switch out the fork if drilling is not an option.
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EAI has this in their catalog for wholesalers. Most any bikeshop should be able to order it for you.
Should be under $50 with the lever from a shop.
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Drum brake front wheel could work too.
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The keirin front brakes are designed to be technically legal on the streets in Japan, not to be safe or reliable. They're OK for flat roads, but I'd never depend on them for stopping on hills. The brackets also scrape up your paint quite a bit, and if you put any kind of tape or pad in between, it causes them to slip when braking or further deteriorates the braking ability. You can actually make a better home-made clamp-on fitting for the rear brake if you really want to go clamp-on. In addition, most front brake solutions don't have close-enough adjustment for the tight clearances on a true track frame; on the rear, you simply move the brake up the seatstays.
07-06-06, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Aldone
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Originally Posted by eddiebrannan
still needs a drilled fork though—it's just a cute lever
btw: trying to swap a road fork onto a Keirin bike is when I learned about JIS crown races
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Originally Posted by eddiebrannan
still needs a drilled fork though—it's just a cute lever
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Originally Posted by Landgolier
Brake mounts need to be stout, I think you're going to have a tough time rigging something that is reliable and doesn't risk paint dingage.
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Another vote for drum brake. Sturmey-Archer makes one with a dyno so you can run lights from it too.
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Originally Posted by thurstonboise
Another vote for drum brake. Sturmey-Archer makes one with a dyno so you can run lights from it too.