IMHO Those may be props, but you obviously have money to buy the things that allowed you to use the packaging and keys as props. That in and of itself is kind of snobbish. Some of us don't have money to buy a $5 tube let alone $100 of tools.

I've never seen one of those threads. More common are the "I just had my shop put on my cog and lockring, and from skidding around on it all day with play in it, now it's stripped; it turns out my shop doesn't know dick about fixed-gear street riding" threads.

And, because I'm ****ing sick of seeing it, it is rotafixa, it is an italian word. It is not some corruption of "roto-rooter". You can rotafixa your cog on. THERE.

How many stripped hub are caused by rotofixing and how many are caused by people who don't know how to build a bike (regardless of tools used)

"rotafixa" is not an Italian word, in Italy we call it "metodo Pettenella" (Pettenella method) from the name of the rider who invented it

"rotafixa" is the name of the Milano fixed gear crew

"rotafixa" is a mix of latin and slang from "ruota fissa", in english "fixed wheel"

forza azzuri

Got 'em from friends, buddy. I wish I did have an M3.

If you don't know, don't act like you do. It makes you look foolish.

C

There's the matter of the amount of touque that has been applied.

Also, maintanence is a part of the cost of the bike. Just like if you have enough dough to buy a car but can't afford insurance, or gas, or tires for a car, you can't afford the car. Period.

If you can't afford to pay to have a mechanic fix your bike, or even cheaper, buy tools to fix your bike yourself, then you can't afford your bike.

Sort of like people who buy houses but can't afford the taxes.

It all adds up to one phase: Cost of Ownership

Less than $100 for tools is pretty much a one-time cost (unless you are breaking or losing stuff) that will last you for years and years. Sounds like a good deal to me when I know that I can't get a mech at a bike shop to cast a shadow on a bike for less than $20.

$2 for a cheeseburger is too much to pay when I'm not hungry.
$10 for a chainwhip is too much to pay when I can rotafix for free.

I like Milano. You can ride the bus for free. There's good ice cream down by that big church.

knocking the rotafix method is elitist ******baggery. carleton is apparently the right tool for the job.

LOL!

I can't believe that you guys are declaring me an elitist for choosing to use a $20 Park Tool. Wow, this board has reached a new low.

Too much for me.

I wish you guys all the best.


And killsurfcity, maybe we should talk. Hit me on PM so we can talk about who's a "tool" and all that jazz. Hel, I remember 6 months ago you didn't even know what platform pedals were...noob. You're a vet now, huh?

ohhhhh **** ohhhhhh **** ohhhhh ****

I use the right tool for the job, if I have it. If I don't have it, and it's not urgent, and I can afford it, I'll get the tool. If I don't have it, and I've got no cash, or it has to be done now, I'll do it by whatever method I can. I've tightened wheelbolts with a pair of slip-joint pliers - it wasn't ideal, but I needed to ride the bike, like now, so it had to be done. Make do and mend is alright by me.

Thanks for the correction. Regardless, rotofix just sounds ********.

Back to carleton, who finally gave us the reason for hating the method, instead of just spouting "Right tool for the job!!" over and over:
That's it? I don't see what makes the rotafixa method more likely to overtorque your cog than a chainwhip, especially with a cheater bar on it, as many people mentioned. The fact is, neither uses a torque wrench, so both depend on the discretion of the person doing the work. And it is pretty damn hard to overtorque a cog.

yeah, verbing words weirds language.

Ok I am coming into this thread a bit late but do have a serious question. I just spun a 17T cog on my freewheel flip side so I can have a fixed/fixed set up. One of these days I will get an old BB lock ring for it but so far it works fine. I just tightened the thing on and went right out to a hill and hammered up it to tourque the cog on. Now I don't know the engineering behind it but it seems to me that will tighten the thing greater then both the rotafix method or a chain whip. Yes? No? So I don't see what the discussion is all about. If I climb an 8% grade on a 46x17 there is more tourque applied to the cog then what I could get with a whip or rotafix I would think?

no, you're an elistist for saying anyone who doesn't is stoopid.

oh, damn! you can remember things! :rolleyes: ahahahahaha. it's just so lame that you remembered that.

the trees are really sneezing today.