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Old 08-08-06, 11:43 PM   #1
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THE messenger bag.

next week i will have the cash for a brand new messenger bag, and i was wondering, what is the best bag out there? of course i am not going to want to drop tons of money, but i do want a nicer one.

let the battle begin!
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Old 08-08-06, 11:51 PM   #2
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the battle has already been fought
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well, i feel like an idiot.

i searched the forums but did not find this.

I will apologize and go in a corner and die, excuse me.
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Old 08-09-06, 12:03 AM   #4
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well, i feel like an idiot.

i searched the forums but did not find this.

I will apologize and go in a corner and die, excuse me.
do not feel bad, young padawan. the search feature has been broken for months.
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I am quite literally amazed at my Crumpler bag. I have been carrying one for a year now, in all sorts of weather, and there is no visible wear on the damn thing. A little dirt, but so little I'm not sure what sort of dirt-repelling shield this thing has on it.

I use the Barney Rustle Blanket most days, but I also have a smaller one (can't recall the name) I picked up in Victor, ID on sale for $20.

Kick ass product, if you ask me. 'Round these parts (Ohio) I haven't seen another (except my wife's).
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so far, i am looking at a reload or chrome, also the crumpler bags seem pretty good.

what is the lowdown on timbuk2? they seem like decent bags, but they don't get much love here.

also does anyone know reloads policy on custom work? i am planning on using one of my friends drawings, but he is really protective of his work.
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If I had the dough, I'd seriously look at PAC bags.
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so far, i am looking at a reload or chrome, also the crumpler bags seem pretty good.
what is the lowdown on timbuk2? they seem like decent bags, but they don't get much love here.
They started out with a Zo copy, eventually got big, went corporate (CEO is an ex-Coca Cola exec), outsourced most of their bags to China (and I've no doubt that the "Made in S.F." bags have sub-assemblies made in China). Along the way they haven't changed any of the ergonomic problems (my opinion) with their bags - the only changes they've made to the design have been to facilitate mass production, which they've obviously got down very well.

Basically, people on here clearly like unique, individual items (as do I), and a Timbuk2 bag is literally just one more out of millions.

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also does anyone know reloads policy on custom work? i am planning on using one of my friends drawings, but he is really protective of his work.
Why don't you email or call them and ask? I'd guess you're worried about them re-using custom artwork for someone else's bag? I seriously doubt they would do that. I certainly wouldn't - customer supplied artwork belongs to the customer, I just try to render it in fabric and thread.
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They started out with a Zo copy, eventually got big, went corporate (CEO is an ex-Coca Cola exec), outsourced most of their bags to China (and I've no doubt that the "Made in S.F." bags have sub-assemblies made in China). Along the way they haven't changed any of the ergonomic problems (my opinion) with their bags - the only changes they've made to the design have been to facilitate mass production, which they've obviously got down very well.

Basically, people on here clearly like unique, individual items (as do I), and a Timbuk2 bag is literally just one more out of millions.

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how far back in time would we have to go to, when timbuk2 bags were considered cool?

I still have my Tag Junkie from the middle of the last decade (around '96)... I'm happy with it, but don't wanna seem like I support the current mass production outsourcing (I'm assuming they were still made in SF then?)
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how far back in time would we have to go to, when timbuk2 bags were considered cool?

I still have my Tag Junkie from the middle of the last decade (around '96)... I'm happy with it, but don't wanna seem like I support the current mass production outsourcing (I'm assuming they were still made in SF then?)
I saw one on the street two days ago that I thought was cool -- an old, extremely faded waxed-canvas model with extra bottom layer and compression straps (two options they don't do anymore, and big bags can REALLY use the compression straps). I think it's been about 5 years since they offered those options.

For some people, they'll just never be cool .
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I have a teeny little Timbuk2 that I used for years: waxed canvas, bottom boot, heavy liner, compression straps, the works. It's still serviceable today. The new ones I keep seeing at EMS are scary, though. I wouldn't trust a load on those teensy plastic clips further than I could throw it.

I rock a Reload nowadays. I had a Civilian-sized bag worked up with the Deluxe's options, an extra sternum strap, and a few loops to hang **** off of. My only complaint is that it's been nine months and the strap is STILL stiff, and the retaining clips for the compression straps sometimes catch my belt loops. Not much of a complaint, huh! Oh, and it's got a custom design so everyone knows exactly who it belongs to.
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If I had the dough, I'd seriously look at PAC bags.
from what i've gathered from various bag threads:

PAC - amazing quality, huge capacity, very expensive, heavy and bulky. ideally suited for someone who is frequently carrying gigantic loads in all conditions. Expect to wait several months

Freight - L backpack is arguably the bag best suited for frequently carrying enormous loads. very well made, although not as burly as the PAC. the compression straps are extremely good. moderately expensive

Bailey Works - great quality, huge capacity, moderately expensive. more comfortable and lighter than the PAC. ideally suited for someone who needs a large bag for groceries, traveling, laundry and copious amounts of beer.

Chrome - great quality, noticably longer than it is wide. less expensive than most bags. Arguably the best buckle and strap system. very popular, very comfortable and stable. due to it's shape, some claim the usable volume lower than comparably sized bags. ideal for the same demographic as the Bailey

Reload - some claim that these are not as durable as other bags, nor as nicely made. strap system was not the most intuitive, this may have changed.

under the weather, arena, seagull, crumpler and so forth have all received good reviews here and there.
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my ol timbuk2's chugging along lovely after 5 years of daily abuse. literally the ONLY failure on it has been on of the prongs of the male part of the lateral strap broke off along the way and i haven't even bought the $2 replacement because it still works just fine. i even just washed it and it looks new(ish) again. can't complain…
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Chrome - great quality, noticably longer than it is wide. less expensive than most bags. Arguably the best buckle and strap system. very popular, very comfortable and stable. due to it's shape, some claim the usable volume lower than comparably sized bags. ideal for the same demographic as the Bailey
FYI, the buckle and strap system on Bailey and PAC is the same design as Chrome (PAC was first, I believe, followed by Bailey and then Chrome). The difference is PAC and Bailey don't have the "oooooh I'm going to hit the big red button!" problem (and the metal buckle is very heavy) due to using a nylon side-release buckle instead of the metal seatbelt buckle. I use the same system on my bags because I love the one-handed adjustment.
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from what i understand, the bailey strap loosens very quickly and all at once. some people claim this makes it difficult to make it a little looser on the fly.
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Ah - I was just referring to the overall design, and how the adjustment system works. Pull on the strap to tighten, pull on the D-ring to loosen -- it's the same on those three. Probably a difference in webbing type accounts for the difference in behavior. I've never used a Bailey myself.
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Ah - I was just referring to the overall design, and how the adjustment system works. Pull on the strap to tighten, pull on the D-ring to loosen -- it's the same on those three. Probably a difference in webbing type accounts for the difference in behavior. I've never used a Bailey myself.
all the same, my big bag will most likely be a bailey.
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They started out with a Zo copy, eventually got big, went corporate (CEO is an ex-Coca Cola exec), outsourced most of their bags to China (and I've no doubt that the "Made in S.F." bags have sub-assemblies made in China). Along the way they haven't changed any of the ergonomic problems (my opinion) with their bags - the only changes they've made to the design have been to facilitate mass production, which they've obviously got down very well.
Well son of a mOL:KJWER:LKJWER:LEJWFOPIUBVS:FHKLBH <- Translate as extreme pissed-offedness.

There's another cute cottage industry swallowed by greed.

I have a midsized timbuk2 (roughly 2001 season) that I carried all through college. (rubberized canvas on the inside, cross strap, divider, padded main strap.

Good to know that when it comes time to replace it I'll know to avoid going back to them.
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