Because its black and white??? I suppose if you painted many of the current track bikes black with a basic letter style in white they would look like the mark V. It looks nothing like the mark V imo. . .(fork aside)

I understand what you mean -- and sympathize (and even empathize) -- but I just would rather accomodate 1000 dumb questions that could have easily been found quicker and more thoroughly with a search or brief scan, than alienate 1 potential new member and positive contributor. Again, I'm not really disagreeing with you.

But now that you mention it, since there 5 stickies at the top of this forum, why isn't there a FAQ thread? Just no one has taken the initiative yet? Or is there one, and I just haven't found it yet?

I was only talking about the logo/letterspacing.

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seems to me that this moth, being alu, would be very different from the mark v, which is 4130.

the geometry seems a little tracker than the mark v. entry level alu track frameset? interesting.

seen it hanging in a shop. looks like straight gahbage.

You ain't kiddin'. +12

Ouch. Brings back memories of the pain of doing graphic design on a DOS computer back in '88.

Yeah, there is one built up at Liberty I think.

It has enough wheel base to pull a flat bed trailer.