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Retem 08-22-06 04:32 PM

you could always get hard core with the drive train and go skip tooth too

hubs hubs hubs old school hubs hmmmm thinking thinking........



hubs hubs you could go with low flange campy

campy makes a one inch pitch crankset that some with a ring american cyclery has em

the ma would look nice laced to that or even go with a set of phil wood hubs I know they didn't start making them until the 70's but they look kinda vintage

but my first choice would be campy skip tooth

onetwentyeight 08-22-06 04:40 PM

they were on to 1/8th by '67. and high flange is old as helllll.

juanblanco 08-22-06 05:37 PM

do you want 700c wheels because they're higher quality? because i hate those ****s. i have a friend who put some 700c wheels on an old road bike and the bottom bracket is now low as hell and he scrapes pedals like a naked homeless woman who sits around scraping pedals on the concrete all day. a whole lot like that, anyway. also, i feel that 27" wheels are much more manly. but if you're secure with your masculinity or something, go ahead.
do you have a picture of the bike? or a naked homeless woman sitting around scraping pedals on the concrete? anything like that?

Retem 08-22-06 09:02 PM

yeah high flange is good old school stuffs but wouldn't it be a crazy lookin build all retro with a skip tooth drive train


woould be insane from a gearing stand point

trons 08-22-06 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by juanblanco
do you want 700c wheels because they're higher quality? because i hate those ****s. i have a friend who put some 700c wheels on an old road bike and the bottom bracket is now low as hell and he scrapes pedals like a naked homeless woman who sits around scraping pedals on the concrete all day. a whole lot like that, anyway. also, i feel that 27" wheels are much more manly. but if you're secure with your masculinity or something, go ahead.
do you have a picture of the bike? or a naked homeless woman sitting around scraping pedals on the concrete? anything like that?

it was funny and then you ruined it

Devotion 08-23-06 07:57 AM

Where did you pick up the frame?

Aeroplane 08-23-06 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by juanblanco
do you want 700c wheels because they're higher quality? because i hate those ****s. i have a friend who put some 700c wheels on an old road bike and the bottom bracket is now low as hell and he scrapes pedals like a naked homeless woman who sits around scraping pedals on the concrete all day. a whole lot like that, anyway. also, i feel that 27" wheels are much more manly. but if you're secure with your masculinity or something, go ahead.

B. S. 4mm lower does not equal pedal scraping, maybe your friend just can't ride worth a damn. And maybe having quality tires is a premium also?

coelcanth 08-23-06 08:51 AM

so it's your bike and of course the best way to build it up is exactly the way you want

but you probably paid a premium to specifically seek out a bike of it's lineage and vintage
so why not consider it's history when building it too ?

if i was me (i am),
i would want the bike i ride every day to be one of my favorites
but i wouldnt want to cringe every time it fell over
or sweat bullets whenever it was locked up somewhere

acavengo 08-23-06 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Devotion
Where did you pick up the frame?

I first found it on Bike123.com, they have a large database of used bikes that you can do searches on. I then contacted them, asked my questions and then picked it up at College Park Bicycles this past weekend when I was down in Maryland for other reasons.

Below is a link to the picture of the one I picked up. I may have failed to mention earlier that it is a re-paint, which may or may not change the way people would approach this bike. I am very happy with it though.
http://www.bike123.com/used_bikes/us..._bv.php?ID=874

DerekRI 08-23-06 08:58 AM

damn, there's a lot of nice bikes for sale on that webpage.

juanblanco 08-23-06 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Aeroplane
B. S. 4mm lower does not equal pedal scraping, maybe your friend just can't ride worth a damn. And maybe having quality tires is a premium also?

what the hell do you know? in his case it did. you don't know his crank length or the kind of tires he had, the kind of bike he had, or anything else. actually i don't know that stuff either. and the difference is a lot more than 4mm, seeing as how the measurement they give for a 27" wheel is 630mm and 700c wheels is 622mm. that's 8. have you ever compared a 27" wheel with 1 1/4 tires to a 700c with those gay ass rubberband wheels that they all have? i haven't actually, but i just measured my 27" wheel with 1 1/4 tires at 27.5". go measure the wheel on your comfort bike and tell me what you get. we'll compare.
what the hell does riding worth a damn have to do with scraping pedals? it's mathematical. i don't think you know anything. except for how to feast on turds.

acavengo 08-23-06 10:04 AM

juanblanco, I think Aeroplane was using that 8mm difference that you cited, just that he was dividing it by 2 since only half of the wheel is below the axle.

onetwentyeight 08-23-06 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Walkercycles
dude...I am all for riding the crap out of a bike, but not a bike that is semi-rare, and collectible.

DW

bike collectors are the worst!

juanblanco 08-23-06 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by acavengo
juanblanco, I think Aeroplane was using that 8mm difference that you cited, just that he was dividing it by 2 since only half of the wheel is below the axle.

oh ****! maybe he does know more than turd feasting.

acavengo 08-23-06 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
bike collectors are the worst!

I understand bike collecting to a certain extent, it is sort of like my mother's fine china, it only comes out on special occassions. Incidentally the frame and fork is currently sitting on top of the china cabinet, in my apartment though, not my mother's. ;)

That said, if you take care of your bike, I think you can still ride it often. The thing that kills me about the idea of not riding it so that it stays pristine is who the hell am I keeping it pristine for? Am I keeping it pristine for the next guy who possibly won't appreciate it and then all the effort was for not. Anyhow, I think getting it to period correct will happen in stages since I am fairly certain that the bike is the right size for me, but won't be 100% positive until I ride it.

onetwentyeight 08-23-06 10:56 AM

exactly. i love nice bikes, and rare parts, but its no fun just looking at em! Hubs can be over hauled, frames can be repared and restored, wheels can be rebuilt... I had the stan miles originally set up with all modern parts, it took me about a year till it was all more or less period. Always looked classic though, in my opinion.

marqueemoon 08-23-06 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
bike collectors are the worst!

That honor belongs to guitar collectors.

GirlAnachronism 08-23-06 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
exactly. i love nice bikes, and rare parts, but its no fun just looking at em! Hubs can be over hauled, frames can be repared and restored, wheels can be rebuilt... I had the stan miles originally set up with all modern parts, it took me about a year till it was all more or less period. Always looked classic though, in my opinion.

+1.

I think I ride more than ever now that I have a rediculously nice and pretty bike. I'd be too stressed to commute on it, but couldn't stand to see it sitting idle in the apartment, so it's inspired me to wake up really early and ride for a few hours before work every day.

That said, I'm glad it's not my only bike because I never lock it up or ride it in anything other than perfect sunshine.

jjvw 08-23-06 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by juanblanco
do you want 700c wheels because they're higher quality? because i hate those ****s. i have a friend who put some 700c wheels on an old road bike and the bottom bracket is now low as hell and he scrapes pedals like a naked homeless woman who sits around scraping pedals on the concrete all day. a whole lot like that, anyway. also, i feel that 27" wheels are much more manly. but if you're secure with your masculinity or something, go ahead.


Originally Posted by Aeroplane
B. S. 4mm lower does not equal pedal scraping, maybe your friend just can't ride worth a damn. And maybe having quality tires is a premium also?

I just measured the wheels on two of my bikes. My 27" rim with a fattter tire is sitting at 27.25" while my 700c with a Michelin Carbon tops out at 26.75" That's almost 6.5mm difference in radius. Incidently, the only time I've ever had pedal strike is when an old lady knocked me over with her car while I was on my early-'70's Italian road frame, converted to fixed, with said 700c wheels and 170mm cranks.

onetwentyeight 08-23-06 03:46 PM

you are don! sell it to me when you take it off your wall.

A bike on a wall is like a bird in a cage.

GirlAnachronism 08-23-06 04:52 PM

"If there is one instinct I just can't get with at all, it's the urge to kill something beautiful just to hang it on your wall."

onetwentyeight 08-23-06 04:53 PM

couldnt have said it better girlanachronism.

don - well you're a frame builder and im a bike rider. i understand it, to an extent. I feel riding something does honor to the craftsman who made it to ride it as it was intended until it can go no further. The only bikes that were ment to be hung on a wall are show bikes. have your kids give me a ring when you kick the bucket. :P

also if you know ken denny, have his kids call me too. hes got half the bikes i ever drooled over on ebay, the bastard.

dylandom 08-23-06 06:07 PM

girl anachronism, can i please see a pic of this beautiful bike of which u speak. with that being said, 128, i want to be like u. i hate to ride my bareknuckle(i know it's no stan miles, but u have to start somewhere). i want to be that person that doesn't go into shock at the sight of a scratch or a ding. i can't believe people have sunday bikes. it's so funny to me. i say that now, but in a couple of months, i'll have a sunday bike and think about how uncivilized it is not to have one.

onetwentyeight 08-23-06 06:15 PM

oh I get bummed when i scratch the paint, but its part of the life of the bike, you know? I do take care of my stuff, and i respect them, but I deffinately use both my bikes heavily. I dont have a car, I dont drive, and they get me everywhere I need to go. I do however HATE locking up if I cant keep my bike in my line of sight.

Scooper 08-23-06 06:57 PM

Bob Hufford has scans of lots of original Schwinn literature on his website.

Here's the 1967 consumer catalog with the Paramounts: 1967 Schwinn Catalog

Here's the 1967 dealer catalog: 1967 Schwinn Dealer Catalog


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