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i think my frame is shot; what should i replace it with?

Old 09-19-06, 01:51 PM
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i think my frame is shot; what should i replace it with?

i'm trying to decide between steamroller or pista concept, but i'm willing to explore other options. i think the threads in my bb shell are wrecked up, and prolly not worth re-tapping. any advice?

*edit* it might be worth mentioning, i work at a shop, so i'd prefer to rock a frame that folks could get at my shop, for the sake of representation. we deal with bianchi and jamis, but we get a lot thru qbp, so the steamroller could work. i guess a jamis would work, but i dont know if they sell the sputnik as a frameset, plus i suspect i'd feel goofy on one.

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Old 09-19-06, 01:54 PM
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Will this bike be locked up? If so don;t get the concept.
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Old 09-19-06, 01:56 PM
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Those are about as far apart as you can get. The concept is an aluminum frame with very tight, track-like geometry. It will handle like a barnswallow on crack (who said that? I remember seeing it somewhere, but I can't remember who said it) and be less comfortable on long ride on rough pavement. On the other hand, if you take it on the track it will be super stiff, and feel right at home. The steamroller has a steel frame and road-style geometry. It will be heavier, but more comfortable for long road rides. I think they are both great frames, but you can't get much further apart in styles in a similar price range.
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I've owned both Steamroller and Pista Concept and I put my money where my mouth is and chose the Pista Concept and sold the steamroller to a BF member. The Pista Concept is a much better performing bike. It climbs hills like crazy!

Plus, you probably qualify for a shop employee discount from Bianchi if you've been working at your shop long enough. This discount is LOWER THAN SHOP COST. Serious. Bike manufacturers offer this to employees of bike shops to boost sales like this:

Customer: "I'm looking for a track bike."
Bike shop guy: "Well, we carry, Fuji, Bianchi, Surly, and Specialized track bikes..."
Customer: "You ride fixie? Which one do you have?"
shop guy: "I have a Bianchi Pista Concept."
Customer: [thinks] "The Bianchi must be good if this bike shop guy who is knowledgeable and can have any bike at a discount chose it. That must be the best."

That's why manufacturers offer shop employees bikes under shop cost. The only catch is, you must work at the shop for a minimum length of time and you can only get like one bike a year (or maybe one bike type a year like road and mtb). Ask your boss about it.
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Old 09-19-06, 04:37 PM
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If you're riding on the track, Concept. If you're going to do a lot of street riding, I suggest a different route:

For a little more (or maybe about the same?) money, I'd use my shop discount and buy a regular ol' Pista. Sell off the parts and you'll end up with the frame for next to nothing.
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Old 09-19-06, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by joelv
I'd use my shop discount and buy a regular ol' Pista. Sell off the parts and you'll end up with the frame for next to nothing.
The same could be done with a Sputnik too. With upgraded cranks and wheels that would be a sweeeet bike.
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Originally Posted by joelv
If you're riding on the track, Concept. If you're going to do a lot of street riding, I suggest a different route:

For a little more (or maybe about the same?) money, I'd use my shop discount and buy a regular ol' Pista. Sell off the parts and you'll end up with the frame for next to nothing.
No offense, but that's crazy.

1) Why not buy the pista concept (retail $1400) for UNDER shop cost?
2) There is absolutely nothing worth selling for any significant amount of money from a stock regular Pista. Headset is crap, pedals are crap, cranks are OK at best, wheels are crap, hubs are crap, seat is crap, bars are OK.
3) 99% of people in the parts market aren't looking for anything from the Pista.
4) I can only speak about Baltimore, but I know of at least 4 Pista Concepts that get year-round daily abuse. One of which is owned by a messenger. Two of the other 3 were used as primary transportation by the owners who didn't have cars. They can live on the street.

Edit: Plus, when I lived there I commuted on mine daily and used it for basic transport for trips under 10 miles year round.
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Old 09-19-06, 05:15 PM
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I'm going to vote for the steamroller. Like a previous poster said "if you take your bike to the track"

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This is a guess, but I'm betting that the bike will see 99.99% use on the street, and .01% use on the track (that's based on my ratio between everything I do on my bike and how often I get out to the velodrome). ...just a thought.
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Originally Posted by summerinside
I'm going to vote for the steamroller. Like a previous poster said "if you take your bike to the track"

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This is a guess, but I'm betting that the bike will see 99.99% use on the street, and .01% use on the track (that's based on my ratio between everything I do on my bike and how often I get out to the velodrome). ...just a thought.
So, why would the Steamroller be better for the street than the Pista Concept?
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Old 09-19-06, 05:38 PM
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What about Soma or On One?
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Old 09-19-06, 06:02 PM
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Soma's overpriced in my opinion, and the On*One (Il Pompino, I'm assuming you're referring to) is hard to come by a lot of the time.

On*One Inbred 29er, however ... well that ****'s just a mean-ass bike.
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Originally Posted by carleton
So, why would the Steamroller be better for the street than the Pista Concept?
Because the tubing on the concept has much weaker. Yes it is possible that it will hold up but if one person smashes against the downtube locking up next to you you're screwed. Crash wrong... screwed. The steamroller or a regular pista will be alot more durable under everyday use.
Therefore
Pista- if you want more trackish geometry
steamroller- if not
concept- if it's mainly going to be a track bike.
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Old 09-19-06, 06:09 PM
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Sputnik would be a pretty nice choice...between the two
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i personally would say don't plan to buy a certain brand. rather get educated on good frames / bikes in your price range. then hunt the f*** out of craigslist and ebay.

as a reminder, numerous 3renshos have been sold for the costs of a steamroller or a pista concept. i bought a 3rensho for $600 (sans wheels). in the CL/ebay thread, there has been two 3renshos for about $600-750 within the last two weeks. i am not saying buy a 3rensho, just set a price range and be a bargain hunter.
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Originally Posted by roscoenyc57
Sputnik would be a pretty nice choice...between the two
agreed, my gf just got one and LOVES it
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Originally Posted by roscoenyc57
Sputnik would be a pretty nice choice...between the two
The sputnik rocks my world. Once I have the room, I will get one and put on some 75's, and that will be it.
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