section 1) still doesn't make it right, or effective. you take the same devil-may-care attitude toward advocacy, that your opponents take to riding, and yet you somehow think you will fair better?

section 2) those people are all in a process of growth and learning, we should help them, not try to make them feel stupid. i'm sure they feel stupid enough already. you can't make a tree grow faster by pulling on it.

section 3) just because someone can't deal with your snide remarks, doesn't mean they are anything other than human. i am sure you could persuade people, and be a great advocate, if changed your methods. but of course, you "don't care". sad.

you talk alot, and you have a "know it all" attitude. . . . .you should make a book of this useless diatribe. And for the sake of you not being a hypocrite, i hope you practice what you are "preaching". I would expect you to wear a reflective vest, have a mirror, use proper hand signals and have a functioning horn on your bicycle; otherwise you are not a responsible cyclist, and could be damaging the movement by looking like you dont care. . . .

go ride. . .

I hate so many things, my head hurts some times

huh? How is basing my opinion of people on the things they do at all devil may care.

They are adults they are responsible for thier own actions. Growth and learning are fine but an adult acting recklessly with little regard for others deserves no sympathy. Hopefully they will grow from the experience and not act in such a fashion again. But doing things like placing blame on others or softening the bitter reality of the situation will in no way help them do so. Judging by the fact that some of them are involved in these incidents repeatedly I think it's safe to say that if anything they need less understanding rather then more. Maybe if admiting to riding like that was cause for ostracization rather then sympathy they would indeed feel stupid enough.


My remarks regarding safety are rarely snide. Biting, and to the point, yes snide no. Sometimes they are caustic but they rarely start out that way. Only when people exihibit continued disregard or recalcitrance are they such. Given the atmosphere most of these people surround themselves with it is highly unlikely that any interweb criticism will change their minds.


Regarding my own riding. I never council anything I don't do myself. I am by my own definition a "responsible rider."

I started to make a list and soon realized this is the best answer.

Hating things is a waste of time. I only hate the mofo who stole my bike.

I love the following.
1. Mountain Dew
2. Biking in traffic.
3. Biking on open roads.
4. Biking offroad (though I don't do it much)
5. I'm going to buy a $40 BMX next weekend. Not that I know how, but it'll still be fun.
6. I love quartermile sprints over on 16th and Damen, YAY!! they start in 10 minutes.

Have fun everyone.

I am convinced that I have a hate gland.

Yes i hate this too, when cars are being too dumb and hesitant to go by you when there's plenty of room.

It's hilarious when you're biking down the street and someone will yell at you "GET IN THE BIKE LANE!!" when there is obviously no bike lane. Yes, this has happened before

dutret, your reading comprehension level is so low it is pointless for me to even reply. carry on my wayward son.

i hate seeing girls struggling to get around on 9000 lb cruisers.

one of ours is.

I hate almost everything. Hating things ****ing rules! And I'm only sort of kidding.

~people who ride with their fork backwards, unbeknownst to them.

someone once said, "There'll always be haters, that's the way it is. Hater *****z marry hater *****es and have hater kids."

i hate when kids on bikes think that someone going the RIGHT way down a oneway city street at 20mph wants to play chicken.

and i really hate the turn signal thing...but maybe im just too reliant on cars being dependable. cars < bikes

+1,000

I hate hate.

I saw both of these yesterday on my ride through downtown. I didn't get a good look at the first A-type, but it could have been a coastie.

Add to that the ******bag on the costie riding while talking on his cellphone to his friend about how some queer-looking guy is doing a trackstand on his road bike (ie: me). Ph34r my Deep-Vs. Then I watched him ride off down a sidewalk the wrong way on a one-way. I guess he's never seen Veloshop's pink and black team kit.

There's an article related to this on bikeportland.org right now. I didn't have any of the cops I passed ticket me for taking a lane yesterday, but traffic was only moving at 20mph tops.

i've been gone and missed this thread's blossoming...but i dunno, i'd also rephrase it as "it annoys me because it just isn't goddamn smart".

as Monty Burns would say " push out the jive bring in the love " ...........

bike cops on the QB bridge talking to their girlfriends on their cell phones or playing psp when they should be looking for outlaw bikers.

I hate that ...
...I work across the street from a hospital. I have to look out for debris and puke. At the last red before the hospital, I've lost count of puking passengers.
...My dog will chew up my chair, boxers, and flip flops. But he will not tear up any of my old bike gear (shoes, helmet). If he did, my wife couldn't complain about me buying new stuff.
...in all my searching, the dumpster here only serve up Xmart bikes, or the old, stamped, gas pipe, Monkey Ward/Sear/Whites bikes.

Inhaling ashes from a skank's cigarette in a passing Kia sportage.
That sh*t burns the lungs.

I think dutret has a much better vocabulary/comprehension than surfcity. In fact, dutret's comments are some of the only ones I actually trust when it comes to answering questions.

i hate myself.